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From Pierre Smits <pierresm...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Hudi Incubation Proposal
Date Fri, 28 Dec 2018 07:38:12 GMT
Hi Vinoth,

There is no typical timeline. Each proposal to incubate is unique and each
timeline depends on the interactions of interested parties.

You can use your own judgement to determine whether everything has been
said and to take the next step.

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

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On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 2:13 AM Vinoth Chandar <vinoth@uber.com.invalid>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Thanks for the feedback and comments.
>
> Its been over a week. Whats the typical timeline/due process for starting
> the vote?
>
> Thanks
> Vinoth
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 25, 2018 at 8:04 PM Mohammad Asif Siddiqui <
> mohammad.asif.siddiqui1@huawei.com> wrote:
>
> > Looks like an interesting project.
> >
> > Regards
> > Asif
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Luciano Resende [mailto:luckbr1975@gmail.com]
> > Sent: 22 December 2018 PM 05:06
> > To: general@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Hudi Incubation Proposal
> >
> > Very nice, looks like you guys might need one more mentor, feel free to
> > include myself.
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 20:29 Vinoth Chandar <vinoth@uber.com.invalid>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Justin,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the questions. I will try to answer them below .
> > >
> > > >>- Use of slack for communication. [1] Has the project thought about
> > > >>how
> > > moving conversations and decision making to a mailing list will affect
> > > the community?
> > > Good point. We use Slack for interactive debugging, critical decisions
> > > (approaches, designs, PR) still happens over github issues (which will
> > > remain the same anyway).
> > > I can try running a poll if you are really interested. But moving to
> > > mailing list should be fine.
> > >
> > > >>- Relatively high bar for committership [1]
> > > So far we used a tweaked version of the chromium project's guidelines.
> > > Open to advice on this going forward inside ASF
> > >
> > > >>No mention of non-code contributions at [1],
> > > Yes, [1] did not recognize that. But we as a project value it
> > > definitely, In fact, the last two committers are the list are included
> > > with incubation precisely for non-code contributions. They helped get
> > > Hudi running on cloud systems.
> > >
> > > >>- Why the low number (6) of initial committers?
> > > No specific reason. We have included folks who have contributed
> > > significantly so far to the project, based on the guidelines we set
> out.
> > > Once we have neutral/standardized governance in place from ASF, might
> > > be easier to absorb more committers.
> > >
> > > >>- Of the initial committers mentioned it’s not obvious that all have
> > > >>made
> > > contributions to the project. You mind listing their GitHub names or
> > > listing their previous contribution to the project.
> > > The first four committers would jump out, if you look at the
> > > contributions here <https://github.com/uber/hudi/graphs/contributors>.
> > > (vinothchandar, n3nash, bvaradar, prazanna). prazanna actually has a
> > > lot more code ownership, but github is not showing his commits for
> > > some reason. You can find it in the raw git log. Already covered the
> > > last two committers in the previous answer.
> > >
> > > >>- Under relationships with other Apache Products “there are no
> > > >>direct
> > > competing projects with Hudi” is not a concern. The ASF allows
> > > directly competing projects.
> > > Sure. we were just describing positioning of the project in the
> > > ecosystem
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Vinoth
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 2:42 PM Justin Mclean
> > > <justin@classsoftware.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Nice proposal and sounds like an interesting project.
> > > >
> > > > A couple of things I noticed that may need some further thought or
> > > > discussion:
> > > > - Use of slack for communication. [1] Has the project thought about
> > > > how moving conversations and decision making to a mailing list will
> > > > affect
> > > the
> > > > community?
> > > > - Relatively high bar for committership [1]. While it's up to every
> > > (P)PMC
> > > > to set the bar, having a high bar hinders project growth and limits
> > > people
> > > > who are unable to work full time of the project.
> > > > - No mention of non-code contributions at [1], as teh ASF we welcome
> > > > all forms of contribution.
> > > > - Why the low number (6) of initial committers?
> > > > - Of the initial committers mentioned it’s not obvious that all have
> > > > made contributions to the project. You mind listing their GitHub
> > > > names or listing their previous contribution to the project.
> > > > - Under relationships with other Apache Products “there are no
> > > > direct competing projects with Hudi” is not a concern. The ASF
> > > > allows directly competing projects.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Justin
> > > >
> > > > 1. https://uber.github.io/hudi/community.html#becoming-a-committer
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