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From Dave Fisher <>
Subject Re: Getting through the hoops (was: Mentors wanted...)
Date Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:30:51 GMT
Hi -

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 16, 2018, at 1:25 AM, Serge Huber <> wrote:
> Actually I think there is a lot of documentation and in itself it can be a bit daunting.
Also for the committer request, it would be great if it could be streamlined by doing some
kind of online form but there is the question of the digital signature that might be an issue.
> Also, some of the optional fields such as the Apache ID or the project name should maybe
be explained as less than optional. I’ve had the problem recently that committers filled
the ICLA without the optional fields, and then the secretary asked for the ID and the project
name. So this is putting additional work on the secretary which could be avoided.
> In other words, it’s not that hard when you know the process, but when you’re learning
it and want to do the right thing by not bothering mentors for everything, I think it is less
straightforward than setting up an account on Github, which I think is what a lot of people
are comparing the experience too (at least that’s the feedback I get usually).

Your Mentors are the ones who need to update the roster in Whimsy. It used to be only the
VP Incubator.

If a Mentor is not helping drive onboarding then they aren’t engaged.


> Regards,
>  Serge… 
>> On 16 Oct 2018, at 10:06, Bertrand Delacretaz <>
>> Hi,
>>> On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 7:29 PM Benjamin Young <>
>>> ...I've continued to reach out to other initial committers to get them through
>>> hoops here at Apache--which took <one of them> a few weeks of setup, reading,
>>> Mostly, I think folks find the process daunting. :-/...
>> I'm curious what's so hard, maybe we aren't explaining things properly?
>> IMO an initial or elected committer needs to choose an Apache ID,
>> register their iCLA, wait for their account to be created, sign up to
>> their project's dev (and maybe private) list and they're in business.
>> Ok, for now they also need to create accounts on Jira and Confluence
>> if the project uses that.
>> Is this what's considered too hard, or did I miss something?
>> -Bertrand
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