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From Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Poddlings length of time in the incubator
Date Sun, 26 Aug 2018 20:40:47 GMT
Regarding Quickstep. I am a mentor. (One mentor resigned earlier this
year, but the other mentor, Roman, is sufficiently engaged.)

I am concerned that Quickstep is not going to graduate. They are
functioning well as an academic project, as evidenced by papers at top
conferences[1], but all of their contributors are from the same
university department. They have made a few efforts at community
building, but do not seem to be building a user base, or attracting
outside contributions.

(Note that traffic for July and August is lower than usual, due to
their contributors being in academia. Traffic on the dev list should
pick up somewhat in September.)

Embrace of Apache has been half-hearted. Note, for instance, that
their twitter account [2] still references their pre-Apache home page
[3] rather than their Apache page [4].

Quickstep made their first release in March 2017 but have not made
further releases. I am going encourage them to make a new release
soon. That will stimulate some community activity. But I am dubious
that this will attract outside contributors.

Julian

[1] http://www.vldb.org/pvldb/vol11/p663-patel.pdf

[2] https://twitter.com/ApacheQuickstep

[3] http://quickstep.cs.wisc.edu/

[4] http://quickstep.apache.org/
On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 10:17 AM Mark Thomas <markt@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On 26/08/18 02:30, Justin Mclean wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >> I’ve discussed this some on the ODF toolkit dev list. Development was recently
moved to Git. The Incubator needs to decide if we will turnover the domains that were donated
in 2011 by IBM(?) to the only consistent developer. If that is true then we can quickly let
them retire, but survive on Github.
> >
> > I also saw you mentioned it in a previous incubator report for the podling. What
are the domain names in question? I think doing as you suggested sounds like a good idea do
you want to take that back to the PPMC and discuss and/or vote on doing that.
> >
> > Any other IPMC members think differently?
>
> The podling PMC can make a recommendation but the decision to release a
> domain name to a third party needs the approval of VP Brand Management.
>
> We also need to find the transfer agreements (if any) for those domains
> to see what the ASF agreed to at the time of donation. It is not unheard
> of for such agreements to include a clause that ownership reverts to the
> donor if the podling does not graduate.
>
> Mark
>
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