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From Chris Thistlethwaite <>
Subject [DISCUSS] Apache Warble Incubator Proposal
Date Wed, 06 Jun 2018 02:22:32 GMT

I'd like to propose Warble as an Apache Incubator project. The draft of
the proposal is at and
included in this message.

Feedback from the community is welcome and encouraged. We're also still
looking for possible mentors if anyone would like to volunteer.


-Chris T.

= Apache Warble Proposal =

== Abstract ==

    Apache Warble is a distributed endpoint monitoring solution where
the agent
    is hosted your own hardware. The aim of Warble is to produce a more
    and less binary view of services and systems, lowering the rates of
false positives
    while also providing greater insight into possible peering issues
and proactive trend
==    Proposal ==
    The goal of Warble will be to bring internal control of
    monitoring back to the end user. Warble can be used as an
    service running on your own infrastructure monitoring other
    in your infrastructure. 
==     Background and Rationale ==
    The beginning of this project was prompted by the service 
    (PMB) going end of life. This brought up conversation about FOSS
    that can monitor internal and external services. PMB offered a
unique code 
    base to build this service upon a known infrastructure.
===    Initial Goals ===

    Bring PMB code into the ASF, refactor the client/server into 
    a more reusable structure. 
    Further reuse of code gives us the a great starting point to build
    starting point. 
==    Current Status ==
    The software exists as a proprietary service. We wish to convert
this to
    a FLOSS solution.
==    Meritocracy ==
    The initial PMC list covers new folks coming into the ASF. 
==    Community ==
    There exists a large user-base of software like Warble, as well as
existing users of the old propietary service. It is our hope that we
    can convert a great deal of these to contributors and testers for
    new open source product.
==    Core Developers ==
    The initial set of developers are a lot of newcomers:

    * Daniel Gruno <>
    * Chris Thistlethwaite <>
    * Haig Didizian <>
    * Andrew Karetas <>
    * Chandler Claxton <>
    * Luke Stevens <>
    * Mike Andescavage <>
    * Chris Lambertus <>
==    Known Risks ==
    There are many existing services that provide external monitoring.
    are well established and have large user bases.
===    Orphaned Products ===
    The initial PMC has great interest in open source projects, though
no formal 
    projects have been run.
===    Inexperience with Open Source ===
    Most of the initial PPMC members are new to the ASF and some are
new to open source projects. However,
    all are very interested in giving back to the community and
projects.  Having said that, there are
    several people involved with extensive experience in the Apache Way
and our procedures and processes.
===    Homogenous Developers ===
    The initial set of developers are employed by a variety of
    located across the world, and used to working on a variety of
    distributed projects.
===    Reliance on Salaried Developers ===
    We do not expect the interest of the proposed initial PMC to be
    tied to current employment, but will actively seek to grow our
    base regardless.
===    Relationships with Other Apache Products ===
    Not much to say here. Many ASF projects make use of the proprietary
    offering, we wish to open source it and have people engage in the
    development of the project. There are, at present, indirect
    in that some dependencies are built on Apache software, but these
    generally by proxy and does not merit considering Warble as a sub-
    of an existing TLP.
==    Initial Source ==
    The initial task of the PMC will be assessing what we wish the
project to
    contain. The proprietary vendor is willing to donate the software,
    considerable rewriting and relicensing will have to take place.
This will
    likely happen in stages, with the scrapers and UI being ported
    and a backend auth system being partly ported/donated, and partly
    developed from scratch at the ASF.
===    Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan ===
    All the existing code in question (from the PMB suite) is owned by
    Quenda IvS, and will be donated to the ASF.
===    External Dependencies ===
    The current code base depends on incompatible licenses for
    visualizations. We will work towards 100% compatibility with the
    License v/2.
===    Cryptography ===
    Warble will make use of some SSL/TLS and cryptography in order to
transmit data
    between nodes and main server, however we will not be incorporating
any cryptography
    in the project code itself, but rather rely on existing encryption
libraries and protocols.
==    Required Resources ==
===    Mailing Lists ===
     (moderated subscriptions)
===    Repositories ===
===    Issue Tracking ===
   We will be starting with just GitHub Issues/PRs and later assess the
possible need for something else.
===    Other Resources ===
    We have no other requirements at present.
    We will require one or more VMs at some point, however, it may be
the case
    that we can get these donated by companies interested in furthering
the development
    of the project.

===    domain name: ===
==    Initial PMC ==

    * Daniel Gruno <>
    * Chris Thistlethwaite <>
    * Haig Didizian <>
    * Andrew Karetas <>
    * Chandler Claxton <>
    * Luke Stevens <>
    * Mike Andescavage <>
===    Affiliations ===
    PMC members are employees of ASF, Microsoft, Evolve Guest
Solutions, Revolt
    Consulting, and independently employed
==    Sponsors ==
===    Champion ===
    Daniel Gruno <>
===     Nominated Mentors ===
===    Sponsoring Entity ===

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