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From Ralph Goers <>
Subject Re: Challenges using Gitbox
Date Mon, 16 Apr 2018 19:37:00 GMT

> On Apr 16, 2018, at 10:46 AM, Maxime Beauchemin <> wrote:
> About PMs, or other "non-coding contributors", it's pretty common to have
> them at sponsoring organizations. For example both Airbnb and Lyft both
> have a dedicated PM for Apache Superset. While they don't write code, they
> contribute to the project and many other ways (prioritization / planning /
> road-mapping, shaping product design, communication, training,
> documentation, bug reports, issue triaging,  organizing events, ...). It
> sounds like the solution is to make them committers to provide them with
> the level of control they need on Github.

I have a problem with the way this is phrased. Companies do not do the prioritization, planning,
road-mapping, shaping product-design, etc of ASF projects. The committers and PMC members
do that. IMO, it is inappropriate to add project managers to a project as a committer just
because they are employed by a company that has committers who are paid to work on the project.
They can use their own Jira repo for that kind of stuff. Furthermore, merit should be earned,
not just handed out to anyone who needs it to do the job their employer requires.

That said, such people can earn merit by becoming involved with the community and helping
out where they can.


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