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From Julian Hyde <jhyde.apa...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Redirecting pagespeed.incubator.apache.org to modpagespeed.com
Date Sat, 14 Apr 2018 04:01:53 GMT
I (as a Druid mentor) suggested the placeholder page, for the exact reasons Greg describes.
Short term, I promise, and better than a 404. 

Julian

> On Apr 13, 2018, at 20:15, Greg Stein <gstein@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> One step at a time. If they want to throw a single page up *today* rather
> than wait six weeks to fully port their website... I would take the page.
> We already had an inquiry on Druid of where their site is.
> 
> A placeholder is better than a 404. Unless, of course, you are personally
> volunteering to quickly move their entire site and workflow... ?
> 
> Cheers,
> -g
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 22:03 John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Gian, Otto,
>> 
>> I can tell you that the proposed plan from Druid is not an OK plan from my
>> perspective.  One of your short term goals should be moving infrastructure
>> over to the ASF.  This includes moving your website over.  Redirecting your
>> ASF webpage to your old webpage will not fly.
>> 
>> While we can't give the same level of support as you would see on github
>> pages (maybe we'll get there one day), setting up builds in Jenkins or
>> Buildbot is pretty straight forward.  Even the incubator website runs in
>> this model.
>> 
>> It's perfectly acceptable to link to pre-Apache releases on your website.
>> I'm not sure if any of the docs lead you to believe otherwise, but this is
>> a fine thing to do.  They just need to be clearly marked as not Apache
>> releases.
>> 
>> The disclaimer that we request is meant to be shown on all pages of the
>> podling's website.  Not just the landing page.  If these are user facing
>> documents, then they must have the disclaimer on them.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 5:42 PM Gian Merlino <gian@imply.io> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Otto,
>>> 
>>> I am just another podling committer, so this isn't authoritative advice,
>>> but for Druid's incubating page we are planning to put up a placeholder
>>> page with a link to the current community site. It isn't up yet, but the
>>> html we are planning to use is here:
>>> 
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-druid-website/blob/asf-site/index.html
>>> 
>>> Our rationale was:
>>> 
>>> 1) Before the site is migrated, it's better to have a placeholder than a
>>> 404.
>>> 2) A placeholder with a link can make it more clear that the releases on
>>> druid.io are not Apache releases.
>>> 3) A placeholder helps satisfy the requirement that podling web sites
>> must
>>> have an incubation disclaimer (
>>> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html).
>>> 
>>> When we migrate the community site to Apache infra then it would replace
>>> the placeholder.
>>> 
>>> Gian
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 2:09 PM, Otto van der Schaaf <oschaaf@apache.org
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> Currently pagespeed.incubator.apache.org responds with a 404, which
>>> isn't
>>>> very nice.
>>>> 
>>>> So now we are wondering if there are any concerns with issueing a
>>> temporary
>>>> redirect to
>>>> modpagespeed.com.
>>>> 
>>>> One concern could be that modpagespeed.com links to code / releases
>> that
>>>> have not yet been
>>>> through the formal Apache release process. Would explicitly mentioning
>>> that
>>>> fact
>>>> be sufficient to address it?
>>>> 
>>>> I would be grateful for any input / guidance on this topic.
>>>> 
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Otto
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 

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