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From Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Self Serve & IPMC Members
Date Fri, 09 Mar 2018 21:35:38 GMT
On 09/03/18 21:11, Chris Lambertus wrote:
> I am specifically referring to the creation of git repos with my reply,
> nothing else. You are correct in that the other selfserve.a.o tools for
> Jira, Confluence, lists, etc., are pmc-chairs, root, and secretary only.
> We will try and be more accurate about the karma specifics when closing
> issues as being “self service.”
> 
> -Chris

Is there any chance of relaxing the restrictions there a little? I'm
thinking either to include members of the incubator PMC or, making it a
little wider - ASF members?

I get that this is increasing risk. I'm wondering if the benefit it
would give in terms of unblocking incubator mentors (and PMCs where the
Chair is unavailable) is worth that risk.

Mark



>> On Mar 9, 2018, at 1:07 PM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org
>> <mailto:johndament@apache.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Chris,
>>
>> As far as I know, self serve is for more than just git repos.  It also
>> supports JIRA requests, confluence, mailing lists.  Each of these are
>> also chair only and where the issue comes in.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 4:04 PM Chris Lambertus <cml@apache.org
>> <mailto:cml@apache.org>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>     On Mar 9, 2018, at 2:47 AM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org
>>>     <mailto:johndament@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Hi Infra
>>>
>>>     Just as a heads up, there's an on going thread on
>>>     general@incubator about podling setup.  One of the assumptions is
>>>     that all IPMC members can use Self Serve [1] [2], however that is
>>>     not the case.  I have updated the mentor guide to tell people to
>>>     use the old way (JIRA tickets) if they cannot use it.
>>
>>
>>     IPMC members can technically create GITBOX repos, although they
>>     may not see the podling in the dropdown if they are not associated
>>     (in LDAP) with the podling. PPMC members can create GITBOX repos
>>     for their associated projects.
>>
>>     Only pmc-chairs, root, and secretary can create GIT-WIP repos.
>>
>>
>>     https://selfserve.apache.org <https://selfserve.apache.org/> is
>>     for creating GIT-WIP repos.
>>
>>     https://gitbox.apache.org <https://gitbox.apache.org/> is for
>>     creating GITBOX (r/w github) repos.
>>
>>
>>     The miscommunication is in the selection of git-wip vs. gitbox
>>     repos. We have generally been asking that all new podlings go on
>>     gitbox, but there is clearly some confusion regarding the
>>     “self-serve” nomenclature and who can do what (including within
>>     infra!)
>>
>>
>>     We’ll try and update the documentation on the actual self-serve
>>     pages to make it more indicative of the karma requirements, but I
>>     hope this clears up the issue for the Incubator. If you find any
>>     of the above to not be the case, please let Infra know so we can
>>     sort it out.
>>
>>
>>     -Chris
>>     ASF Infra
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>     Please let me know if that's an OK approach.
>>>
>>>     John
>>>
>>>     [1]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-16115
>>>     [2]: https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/170f57f68100e6099bdc37bc529e6250130f7570a1618ad0fc5d5ce1@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>>>
>>>
> 


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