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From "Kevin A. McGrail" <kmcgr...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Dr. Elephant Incubator Proposal
Date Thu, 08 Mar 2018 15:31:34 GMT
I vote for Apache L.E.Font, MD :-)

--
Kevin A. McGrail
Asst. Treasurer & VP Fundraising, Apache Software Foundation
Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 6:43 AM, Pierre Smits <pierresmits@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> While i believe, based on the proposal, it may the works may be a nice
> addition to the portfolio of the ASF, I have concerns with the name.
>
> Are we going to call this (if and when onboarded/graduated):
>
>    - Apache DrElephant?
>    - Apache Doctor Elephant?
>    - Apache Dr-Elephant?
>    - etc....
>
> While it is understandable that existing parties want to retain the name of
> where code and team originally came from, I believe the name of the
> podling, its community and its works should not always hang to much to
> references in the past. Joining the ASF as a podling offers an opportunity
> to retain the best from the past (often the code and pre-joining
> contributors) and have a do-over for remainder.
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> V.P. Apache Trafodion
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 3:35 AM, Carl Steinbach <cws@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Timothy Chen has volunteered to be a mentor. I have updated
> > the proposal on the wiki to reflect this.
> >
> > Thanks Timothy!
> >
> > - Carl
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 12:47 PM, Carl Steinbach <cws@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > I also wanted to add that we are looking for more mentors.
> > > Please email me if you are interested.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > - Carl
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 12:46 PM, Carl Steinbach <cws@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I will followup with LinkedIn's legal team regarding getting an SGA. I
> > >> don't
> > >> think this will be a problem since the same team has already reviewed
> > Dr.
> > >> Elephant
> > >> and approved it for contribution to the Apache incubator.
> > >>
> > >> - Carl
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 11:20 AM, Kevin A. McGrail <
> kmcgrail@apache.org>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Sorry, I missed the copyright and checked only the LICENSE.  Agree
> > >>> completely with you and Craig an SGA is needed.
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Kevin A. McGrail
> > >>> Asst. Treasurer & VP Fundraising, Apache Software Foundation
> > >>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > >>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> > >>>
> > >>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 2:19 PM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org
> >
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> > On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 2:17 PM Kevin A. McGrail <
> kmcgrail@apache.org
> > >
> > >>> > wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > Fair enough but it would be procedural not legal.  Who would
sign
> > >>> said
> > >>> > > SGA?  LI or representatives of the GH project?
> > >>> > >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > LinkedIn.  And it is a legal need.  Right now, the source files
> have
> > >>> > Copyright LinkedIn on them.  The SGA grants us the ability to
> remove
> > >>> that
> > >>> > copyright header.  The CCLA would allow the individual contributors
> > to
> > >>> > submit the code to us with the appropriate header.  Hence why
> either
> > >>> works
> > >>> > in this case.
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > --
> > >>> > > Kevin A. McGrail
> > >>> > > Asst. Treasurer & VP Fundraising, Apache Software Foundation
> > >>> > > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > >>> > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> > >>> <(703)%20798-0171>
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 1:55 PM, Craig Russell <
> > apache.clr@gmail.com>
> > >>> > > wrote:
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > > If Dr. Elephant *becomes* an Apache project, it needs
a SGA.
> This
> > >>> is
> > >>> > part
> > >>> > > > of the incubation process, although as Bertrand notes,
it's
> good
> > to
> > >>> > know
> > >>> > > > ahead of time whether all of the current owners of the
code are
> > >>> willing
> > >>> > > to
> > >>> > > > grant an explicit license to Apache.
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Please see http://www.apache.org/licenses/#provenance
for
> > details.
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > If Dr. Elephant is only *used* as a dependency by an
Apache
> > >>> project, no
> > >>> > > > SGA is needed.
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Craig
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > > On Mar 7, 2018, at 5:51 AM, Kevin A. McGrail <
> > >>> kmcgrail@apache.org>
> > >>> > > > wrote:
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > I do not believe an SGA is needed as Dr. Elephant
is licensed
> > >>> under
> > >>> > > ASF.
> > >>> > > > > https://github.com/linkedin/dr-elephant/blob/master/LICENSE
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > Regards,
> > >>> > > > > KAM
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > --
> > >>> > > > > Kevin A. McGrail
> > >>> > > > > Asst. Treasurer & VP Fundraising, Apache Software
Foundation
> > >>> > > > > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > >>> > > > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> > >>> > <(703)%20798-0171>
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 6:59 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
<
> > >>> > > > > bdelacretaz@codeconsult.ch> wrote:
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > >> Hi,
> > >>> > > > >>
> > >>> > > > >> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 12:08 AM, Carl Steinbach
<
> > cws@apache.org
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > wrote:
> > >>> > > > >>> = Source and Intellectual Property Submission
Plan =
> > >>> > > > >>> ...The Dr. Elephant source code is already
licensed under
> > >>> > > > >>> Apache License Version 2.0. Going forward,
we will continue
> > to
> > >>> have
> > >>> > > > >>> all the contributions licensed directly
to the Apache
> > Software
> > >>> > > > >>> Foundation through our signed Individual
Contributor
> License
> > >>> > > > >>> Agreements for all of the committers on
the project....
> > >>> > > > >>
> > >>> > > > >> Note that whoever owns the code (LinkedIn IIUC)
will have to
> > >>> submit
> > >>> > a
> > >>> > > > >> Software Grant to donate it to the ASF:
> > >>> > > > >>
> > >>> > > > >> https://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt
> > >>> > > > >>
> > >>> > > > >> I think it's prudent to verify that the owners
of the code
> are
> > >>> ready
> > >>> > > > >> to sign and submit that document, and mention
that in the
> > above
> > >>> > > > >> section, before entering incubation.
> > >>> > > > >>
> > >>> > > > >> -Bertrand
> > >>> > > > >>
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> > >>> > > > Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
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> > >>> > > >
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