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From Jan Lahoda <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2
Date Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:33:18 GMT
On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Jochen Theodorou <>

> Am 22.01.2018 um 11:01 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:
>> I am not sure what the point is of spending time on putting rat exclusions
>> together if they’re simply going to be ignored when it comes to IPMC
>> members evaluating a release. Yes, we can of course discuss those rat
>> exclusions. No, they cannot simply be ignored and we cannot be confronted
>> with a very long list of issues in the IPMC vote thread primarily based on
>> the fact that our rat exclusions have been ignored.
> sorry for jumping in here, I only know half what those files are about, so
> I might be wrong. It seemed to me those are java files, that are test
> files. If you make an IDE for a language, you will want tests, that
> basically consist of code and are test data. And since they are test data,
> they have been excluded. Since they are also code, this produces an edge
> case conflict.
> Now in Groovy we have also test data as code, but our tests have the test
> data either embedded and sue them directly from in-memory or will write
> them to disk or even produce them. Those tests then of course have the
> right header and do not need to be excluded. Is that no way forward for
> NetBeans?

We have such tests as well, of course. But some tests use test data that is
in separate files in the repository, and it would seem to me to be a wasted
effort to convert thousands of existing tests to a different approach
without a good technical reason.


> bye Jochen
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