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From Geertjan Wielenga <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta (incubating) rc2
Date Mon, 22 Jan 2018 10:33:16 GMT
The very last thing you’ll find us doing is ignoring your advice. We have
taken everything everyone has said and suggested from the very start very

It is for that very reason that, for example, we’d like rat exclusions to
be discussed and not ignored and for it also to be affirmed that our test
data (some of which is necessarily pseudo code) to not need to be licensed
since doing so would break our build and explicit Apache guidelines specify
that in these cases no license header is required — which is precisely why
we excluded them via rat and precisely why those exlusions should be
discussed, not ignored.


On Monday, January 22, 2018, Justin Mclean <> wrote:

> Hi,
> > I am not sure what the point is of spending time on putting rat
> exclusions
> > together if they’re simply going to be ignored when it comes to IPMC
> > members evaluating a release.
> Rat exclusions are fine if they comply with policy and don’t hide things.
> I’ve reviewed and voted on 300+ releases on the IPMC list so perhaps I have
> some advice to give that you should listen to. You can of course choose to
> ignore it.
> > Yes, we can of course discuss those rat exclusions. No, they cannot
> simply be ignored and we cannot be confronted
> > with a very long list of issues in the IPMC vote thread primarily based
> on
> > the fact that our rat exclusions have been ignored.
> Some of the issues I’ve brought up are minor and can be fixed in later
> releases and some IMO are not and are not in line with ASF licensing or
> release policy. I suggest you try are fix those.
> > I would like this to be affirmed by the IPMC and I would like our
> mentors to advise on their perspective on this too.
> That would be a good way forward. As I said said previously your mentors
> can vote +1 on this release - my vote is not a veto. I would be totally
> fine if you got  3 +1 votes from other IPMC members and my vote is the only
> -1.That’s how Apache works.
> Thanks,
> Justin
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