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From David Jencks <>
Subject Re: Apache Policy Quiz
Date Thu, 25 Jan 2018 05:40:43 GMT
I got inconsistent results from the same answer out of the same choices on the same question.
It was not clear to me that many of the questions are “check all that apply”. Some of
the questions are poorly worded, e.g. something like “can Apache rely on cat X  software”:
most of the projects I know about rely on Apache infra running Jira so it’s hard to call
that an optional dependency of any kind. From the “explanations” of what we’re deemed
my wrong answers I think the question was intended to be closer to “can an Apache project
have a dependency on cat X software”.

For many of the questions I thought there was a mismatch between my understanding of Apache
policy and any of the possible answers presented, and I ended up feeling vaguely insulted.

David Jencks 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 24, 2018, at 9:03 PM, Greg Stein <> wrote:
> Every single question that I answered gave me a "not quite right". Even
> when it asked if an Apache product can be distributed under Cat-X and I
> said "No", it said "not quite right". That was a simple yes/no, and an
> obvious "no" answer. ... That was the final straw after a series of
> multiple-choice questions that I got "not quite right", thinking maybe I
> missed some nuance. Not at all. When it said my "no" answer wasn't right...
> Well.
> The quiz logic seems broken.
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 7:49 PM, Justin Mclean <>
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> A while back I posted a little logo game. [1] Well after a few comments on
>> the incubator list around projects possibly graduating without fully
>> understanding ASF policy, and some issues with recent release got me
>> thinking is there another way we can present this information. So I made a
>> little multiple choice quiz on ASF policy. [2] Give it a try [3] and tell
>> me what you think. (It’s probably harder and not as fun as the logo game
>> but aimed at a different audience.)
>> Currently it only has a dozen or so questions with some variation, so you
>> may get the same question asked but it’s likely to have different answers
>> in a different order. Anyway if people think this is useful perhaps we can
>> expand it with more questions and broaden the scope to include other areas
>> like the Apache Way, how the foundation works and the like.
>> I may of made mistakes and it likely some words and sentences probably
>> need correcting. Proof readers and PRs welcome.
>> BTW it doesn’t save your scores anywhere so if you get a question wrong
>> only you will know but hopefully you might learn something. Have a record
>> of number of people taking the quiz and results by incubating project might
>> be interesting but probably a little invasive.
>> Thanks,
>> Justin
>> 1.
>> 2.
>> 3.
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