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From "John D. Ament" <johndam...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [IP CLEARANCE] Apache Felix Bundle Archive File Installer Extension
Date Thu, 14 Dec 2017 12:01:11 GMT
Karl,

If the code is already Apache licensed, then I would check w/ secretary@ or
legal-discuss@ to confirm what documents need to be in place to remove the
Intel copyright claim (typically those would go in to the NOTICE file for
Apache Felix going forward).  This is typically done as an SGA [1].

John

[1]: https://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant-template.pdf

On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 6:57 AM Karl Pauls <karlpauls@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> the code has been available as AL with the Intel copyright already
> (the license headers in the files are unchanged). It is mainly an
> attempt to get it contributed to Apache Felix. I told them we need the
> following (from the incubator ip-clearance form):
>
> "A software grant must be provided to the ASF. This grant can either
> be done by the ASF Corporate CLA (via Schedule B) or the Software
> Grant Agreement. The completed and signed grant must be emailed to
> secretary@apache.org"
>
> Consequently, they send (the received) CCLA which was supposed to
> cover for that.
>
> Apologies if I misunderstood the requirement. Could you please help me
> out here and list what exactly we need from Intel and/or Jessica to
> get this done?
>
> regards,
>
> Karl
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 12:48 PM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > Karl,
> >
> > CCLA [1] is just a document indicating that the corporate entity has
> given
> > approval for individuals associated to it to contribute to Apache under
> > ICLAs.  It really doesn't provide any legal bearing to relicense code
> > outside of an ICLA/SGA.
> >
> > Usually when projects come to us with an IP clearance, its for a
> > significant amount of code.  In those scenarios, there's an SGA
> associated
> > with the contribution (from a corporate entity) indicating that they are
> > licensing the ASF to use the code under the Apache license (irrespective
> of
> > the original license).  I'm assuming that at Intel some # of engineers
> > contributed to this code, and that it was under a proprietary license
> until
> > this JIRA ticket was filed.  In that case, SGA is almost always the right
> > document to get signed.
> >
> > In the situations where we see ICLAs, there isn't usually a SGA involved
> > since its covered under an ICLA for that committer and needs to be
> applied
> > as a patch/pull request.  The other clear thing this indicates is a loss
> of
> > provenance, since (I haven't looked at all of the source files) we're
> > receiving a flat dump of code to be brought into an existing repository.
> >
> > So, unfortunately, until that's resolved I'm -1 to accepting it.
> >
> > [1]: https://www.apache.org/licenses/cla-corporate.txt
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 5:03 AM Karl Pauls <karlpauls@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi John,
> >>
> >> as far as I understand the situation, the contribution has been
> >> submitted by Jessica Marz on behalf of Intel. The copyright is
> >> entirely Intel and the CCLA received is _from_ Intel, covering Jessica
> >> Marz and the contribution. Does that help?
> >>
> >> regards,
> >>
> >> Karl
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 1:54 AM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > Can you please clarify whether only a CCLA was received, or if
> ICLAs/SGA
> >> > were received as well?  The document indicates a CCLA was received
> from
> >> an
> >> > individual, which doesn't sound right.
> >> >
> >> > John
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 1:32 AM Karl Pauls <karlpauls@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> the Apache Felix project has received the contribution of the Bundle
> >> >> Archive File Installer Extension.
> >> >>
> >> >> - The code is attached to FELIX-5732 [0].
> >> >> - The IP Clearance form has been committed [1].
> >> >> - The acceptance vote has passed on the dev@felix malining list [2].
> >> >>
> >> >> The clearance passes by lazy consensus if no -1 votes are cast within
> >> >> the next 72 hours.
> >> >>
> >> >> regards,
> >> >>
> >> >> Karl
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> [0] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-5732
> >> >> [1]
> >> >>
> >>
> https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/felix-bar-file-install-extension.html
> >> >> [2] https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@felix.apache.org/msg44409.html
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Karl Pauls
> >> >> karlpauls@gmail.com
> >> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >> --
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> >> karlpauls@gmail.com
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>
>
>
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