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From "John D. Ament" <johndam...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Gradute Streams as TLP
Date Wed, 05 Jul 2017 21:30:41 GMT
So I just went back through the archives.  I think I share Dave's concerns
about notifying.  It looks like the incubator list was the first place the
proposed resolution was shared.  Would be good to put in front of the
private@streams list make sure no one has any concerns with it.

John

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 4:26 PM Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:

> Thanks for clarifying. Does this list correspond to those who have
> participated with commits and project work in the last 6 months or year who
> are PPMC members or committers? Will you continue to allow all current
> committers to have commit rights once you go to TLP?
>
> My concern is anyone losing merit even if it has been a few years. People
> come and go. Sometimes people come back after being absent for a couple of
> years. One aspect at Apache is that merit does not expire.
>
> (I am part of OpenOffice where we went from a huge PPMC to a large PMC on
> graduation so I feel what you are doing is legitimate.)
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> On Jul 5, 2017, at 1:19 PM, sblackmon <sblackmon@apache.org> wrote:
>
> As the PPMC member encouraged to draft the resolution, that was the
> condition I decided to apply, after running it by a few others from the
> community out-of-band.  There was no email thread on the topic, so using
> the definition that decisions must be made on the list, this wasn’t a group
> decision, it was an action by me.
>
> Sorry for the confusion.
>
> Steve
>
> On July 5, 2017 at 2:45:50 PM, Dave Fisher (dave2wave@comcast.net) wrote:
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> Where was that decision made? I don’t see that recently in Pony Mail
> archives. I don’t see anything wrong with decision I just don’t see any
> record of it. Please let us know when it was made and how it was recorded.
>
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> > On Jul 5, 2017, at 12:33 PM, sblackmon <sblackmon@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > John,
> >
> > We decided to propose only PPMC members who voted +1 to the graduation
> resolution for the PMC. If that left out anyone harboring a latent plan to
> re-engage with the project community, and they let us know on dev@streams,
> we’d be happy to add their names onto the resolution.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > On July 5, 2017 at 2:12:53 PM, John D. Ament (johndament@apache.org)
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > Thanks for drafting this. I see there's a big difference between the
> > listed PPMC and the proposed PMC. I'm assuming you've reached out to
> those
> > excluded and confirmed they're not interested in Streams any longer?
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 2:48 PM sblackmon <sblackmon@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> The Streams PPMC has discussed [1] and voted [2] to graduate to TLP.
> >>
> >> In preparation for an IPMC vote on the matter, we’ve updated our project
>
> >> status xml [3] and corresponding whimsy podlingStatus [4], completed an
>
> >> Apache Maturity Model Assessment [5], and drafted a proposed charter
> [6].
> >>
> >> We’d appreciate any feedback you can provide at this stage to help
> ensure
> >> the project has all bases covered to become a successful Apache TLP.
> >>
> >> Thank you for your consideration.
> >>
> >> [1]
> >>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/64738d9382b094bb52a733e7d44f5497eecc04fae4255366abc0270b@
> >> <dev.streams.apache.org>
> >> [2]
> >>
> >>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/cd17d49769b85a8cda14cd16624032c0ddb02e8e707545082c5fc893@
>
> >> <dev.streams.apache.org>
> >> [3]
> >> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/streams.html
> >> [4]
> >> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/streams#podlingStatus
> >> [5]
> >>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STREAMS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+Streams
>
> >> [6]
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STREAMS/Proposed+Charter
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

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