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From Adina Crainiceanu <ad...@usna.edu>
Subject Re: Updating PPMC rosters via whimsy
Date Sun, 11 Jun 2017 16:31:06 GMT
John,

I'm a committer and PPMC member for Rya

Adina

On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 12:23 PM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
wrote:

> Adina,
>
> What podling are you on?
>
> John
>
> On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 10:50 AM Adina Crainiceanu <adina@usna.edu> wrote:
>
> > I just wanted to mention that in the "Incubator committers that are not
> on
> > the IPMC and are not listed as a committer of any podling" I noticed
> > multiple names (myself included - Adina Crainiceanu), who are committers
> on
> > active podlings and are still included in the list. For example, I am a
> > committer and PPMC member for Apache Rya (incubating). Not sure how the
> > list was generated, but not only committers of already graduated podlings
> > are on the list, but also committers of active podlings. Maybe because
> > those people are part of the PPMC of a podling and therefore they are
> > implicit committers, but somehow they were not considered committers for
> > the purpose of generating the list.  (I believe that the assumption that
> > all PPMC members are commiters is/should be true)
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 7:58 AM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 5:58 AM sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> On 11 June 2017 at 00:18, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
wrote:
> > > >> > On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 6:10 PM, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net
> >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> For that reason, I'd like to make a simplifying assumption:
that
> > all
> > > >> mentors
> > > >> >> are PPMC members, and all PPMC members are committers.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Existing records that violate one or more assumptions:
> > > >> > https://whimsy.apache.org/incubator/podling-crosscheck
> > > >>
> > > >> "Podling Committers that are not Incubator committers"
> > > >> AFAIK, that should not happen.
> > > >> Probably mostly existing ASF committers being added to podlings
> > > directly.
> > > >> New committers should be added to Incubator + podling by the
> existing
> > > >> processes.
> > > >> I think it would make sense to just add them to the Incubator
> > > >> committer list so they have the appropriate karma.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > > Agreed.  I appreciate the concise report.  We should plan to add
> these
> > > > individuals.
> > >
> > > You should be able to add them from the ppmc page.
> > >
> > > >> "Incubator committers that are not on the IPMC and are not listed
> as a
> > > >> committer of any podling"
> > > >> Most likely they were on podlings that are no longer active.
> > > >> I don't think any cleanup of the list is done when podlings exit
> > > >> incubation, so this list will continue growing.
> > > >> Does that matter?
> > > >>
> > > > I was thinking about this.  I think I mis-stated the behavior of
> adding
> > > > someone to the PPMC.  There is no requirement to remove them from
> > > > incubator.  That's actually how I got started, my podling already
> > > graduated
> > > > but I still had my incubator commit bit.
> > >
> > > Some of that list is because not all of the podling rosters have been
> > > updated.
> > >
> > > But if the plan is to have a monotonically increasing list of people
> > > who ever were associated with a podling at any point in the past, it
> > > may make sense to change things so that all committers have access to
> > > incubator resources and do away with this list.
> > >
> > > > The list that does worry me is the list of mentors not on the IPMC.
> I
> > > feel
> > > > like that requires a bit more research to find out what happened but
> > > unless
> > > > those people are members they're probably going to be removed from
> > their
> > > > mentor roles.  What do others think?
> > >
> > > The individuals should probably be evaluated separately.  As Sebb
> > > points out, most are ASF members, and therefore are one ask away from
> > > being added to the IPMC:
> > > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/pmc.html#joining
> > >
> > > - Sam Ruby
> > >
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> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Dr. Adina Crainiceanu
> > Associate Professor, Computer Science Department
> > United States Naval Academy
> > 410-293-6822 <(410)%20293-6822>
> > adina@usna.edu
> > http://www.usna.edu/Users/cs/adina/
> >
>



-- 
Dr. Adina Crainiceanu
Associate Professor, Computer Science Department
United States Naval Academy
410-293-6822
adina@usna.edu
http://www.usna.edu/Users/cs/adina/

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