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From "John D. Ament" <johndam...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Graduating Apache Eagle
Date Wed, 07 Dec 2016 12:30:31 GMT
I believe this page is also relevant to what Stian's pointing out
http://www.apache.org/dev/release-download-pages.html#links

I will say this line looks wrong on the page, and probably is missing a
"not" - which would preclude pointing to github for downloads (I added the
*not*)

Artifacts which are not full official releases (for example, milestones,
betas and alphas) may *not* be linked from the download page. Links to
these artifacts should be removed in a timely fashion.

It is a bit odd that your downloads page is not linked from the homepage,
but it is available within the docs.  But that's an optimization not a rule.

On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 7:16 AM Stian Soiland-Reyes <stain@apache.org> wrote:

> This download page does not fully comply with the ASF distribution policy,
> which says there should also be a link to the signature and description of
> how to check it:
>
> http://eagle.incubator.apache.org/docs/download-0.4.0.html
>
> http://www.apache.org/dev/release-publishing.html#distribution_dist
>
>
> Is a direct link from front page to an ( implicitly "endorsed"?)
> third-party site GitHub (and no link to ASF downloads) OK according to
> policy? I would have included a traditional Download link - it's OK for
> that page to include both the source code and Maven coordinates, but I
> don't think we should encourage downstream to "download from GitHub" at
> this stage as it conflates what is a PMC-voted ASF release or not.
>
> On 6 Dec 2016 11:22 pm, "Roman Shaposhnik" <roman@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Henry Saputra <henry.saputra@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > HI Roman, John,
> > >
> > > Most of the mentors have full plate to do and especially need to help
> > > existing podling to be successful in incubator.
> > >
> > > Taylor has been very gracious to stay as  initial member of PMCs, so
> > > we have 1 ASF member, which I think good enough and will be seed to
> > > invite more Apache Eagle PMCs to be ASF member.
> > >
> > > Other than that, I don't the the current members should have good
> > > level of diversity.
> > >
> > > If you looked at Apache Geode when it proposed for graduation, it has
> > > 22 PMCs from Pivotal only one or two from different orgs.
> >
> > The majority of podlings that come as projects from a single vendor
> > struggle
> > with PMC diversity. But this gives them even more of a reason to come up
> > with creative ways to mitigate it. This is exactly what Geode had to
> think
> > about
> > and I hope Eagle will think about as well.
> >
> > > ALL mentors in Eagle believe that the community have been operating in
> > > the Apache way, create releases, invite new committers, and follow all
> > > communications in Apache resources.
> >
> > Good to know! The mentor's vouching for it helps me a lot.
> >
> > Quick question to the community: why is there no way to download releases
> > of the software that are linked from the http://eagle.incubator.apache.
> > org/ ?
> > Is GitHub being treated as the way to distribute it?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Roman.
> >
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