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From Frances Perry <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Beam podling graduation readiness
Date Sun, 04 Dec 2016 16:12:55 GMT
In addition, since its not called out on your project page, which of these
> are current PPMC members and which are just committers?  Everyone is listed
> as committer on .

You can find the PPMC/committer distinction on the Beam site:

I'm a bit
> worried about the "private/indirectly" comment made somewhere else (not
> mixing public/private emails...)

There are folks on the PPMC who were not active during incubation and have
chosen to decline going forwards. I believe Davor's "private/indirect"
comment referred to an offline discussion I had. There was an original PPMC
member who never even signed up for the Beam mailing lists. I wanted to
make sure he was aware call for folks to opt in to the resolution, so I
told him in person to make sure he didn't miss a chance to respond in the

> If you include committers, that adds representation from DataTorrent and
> > Smoking Hand, reducing Google representation to 53%.
> >
> >
> I feel like this number.. the fact that it's being counted is a bit odd.
> While we want to make sure the community is diverse, I would be hesitant to
> add people just because it counters Google's direct influence on the
> project.  Even if Google only makes up 20% of a proposed PMC, if it's
> housing 90% of the active developers on the project that would still give a
> single company higher influence.

I calculated this number for Beam when it came up during Geode's graduation
discussion as something this group may pay attention to. Just trying to
save folks the effort of digging it up themselves if interested ;-)

I totally agree that affiliation is not a reason to add someone. But I do
think that this is a sign of increasing diversity within the project when
new folks from other projects and companies continue to get involved and
make significant contributions.

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