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From Julian Hyde <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Graduating Apache Eagle
Date Wed, 07 Dec 2016 17:02:08 GMT
Looking a the home page <>
 I think that Eagle should make Apache branding clearer for people who do not scroll down
past the fold, remove the prominent GitHub link, and add a “Download” button to a standard
download page with instructions on check-sums.

I will make sure that this happens immediately after graduation.


> On Dec 7, 2016, at 4:30 AM, John D. Ament <> wrote:
> I believe this page is also relevant to what Stian's pointing out
> I will say this line looks wrong on the page, and probably is missing a
> "not" - which would preclude pointing to github for downloads (I added the
> *not*)
> Artifacts which are not full official releases (for example, milestones,
> betas and alphas) may *not* be linked from the download page. Links to
> these artifacts should be removed in a timely fashion.
> It is a bit odd that your downloads page is not linked from the homepage,
> but it is available within the docs.  But that's an optimization not a rule.
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 7:16 AM Stian Soiland-Reyes <> wrote:
>> This download page does not fully comply with the ASF distribution policy,
>> which says there should also be a link to the signature and description of
>> how to check it:
>> Is a direct link from front page to an ( implicitly "endorsed"?)
>> third-party site GitHub (and no link to ASF downloads) OK according to
>> policy? I would have included a traditional Download link - it's OK for
>> that page to include both the source code and Maven coordinates, but I
>> don't think we should encourage downstream to "download from GitHub" at
>> this stage as it conflates what is a PMC-voted ASF release or not.
>> On 6 Dec 2016 11:22 pm, "Roman Shaposhnik" <> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Henry Saputra <>
>>> wrote:
>>>> HI Roman, John,
>>>> Most of the mentors have full plate to do and especially need to help
>>>> existing podling to be successful in incubator.
>>>> Taylor has been very gracious to stay as  initial member of PMCs, so
>>>> we have 1 ASF member, which I think good enough and will be seed to
>>>> invite more Apache Eagle PMCs to be ASF member.
>>>> Other than that, I don't the the current members should have good
>>>> level of diversity.
>>>> If you looked at Apache Geode when it proposed for graduation, it has
>>>> 22 PMCs from Pivotal only one or two from different orgs.
>>> The majority of podlings that come as projects from a single vendor
>>> struggle
>>> with PMC diversity. But this gives them even more of a reason to come up
>>> with creative ways to mitigate it. This is exactly what Geode had to
>> think
>>> about
>>> and I hope Eagle will think about as well.
>>>> ALL mentors in Eagle believe that the community have been operating in
>>>> the Apache way, create releases, invite new committers, and follow all
>>>> communications in Apache resources.
>>> Good to know! The mentor's vouching for it helps me a lot.
>>> Quick question to the community: why is there no way to download releases
>>> of the software that are linked from the http://eagle.incubator.apache.
>>> org/ ?
>>> Is GitHub being treated as the way to distribute it?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Roman.
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