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From "John D. Ament" <johndam...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Github tagging, was Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Joshua 6.1 RC#2
Date Tue, 29 Nov 2016 19:55:39 GMT
On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 2:51 PM Jim Apple <jbapple@cloudera.com> wrote:

> I am not subscribed to that list.
>
> Can you elaborate on the process of moving release votes to a
> different mirror/fork? Our votes, of course, happen on the mailing
> list. The tagging happens in the official git repo. We do not have any
> oficially-recognized-yet-unofficial mirrors, and the idea that we
> would make a github mirror for the sole purpose of tagging commits
> that Github would then consider releases of
> apache-impala-incubating-mirror-only-for-votes seems byzantine.
>
>
This was done most recently in a BatchEE vote.  The vote thread is here:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/fc112978fe7682a95189f9d14567ddef23bd2fc860bbce89903bf5c9@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E

Its a bit of a mixed bag, some people had concerns, others didn't.  To me
its valid, since its protected the master in case of a bad release needing
to get re-rolled (I personally hate the unnecssary -RC# that projects push
out)



> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 11:44 AM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > IMHO, the tags on github are not formal releases.  The fact that github
> > marks it as a release is just an unfortunate side effect of how github
> > works.  So its not a violation of ASF release process.  May be good to
> > start a discussion on legal-discuss.  Let me know if you're subscribed,
> we
> > can talk more there.
> >
> > Some projects have handled this by moving release votes to a different
> > (mirror/fork) of the project.  I don't see anything wrong with taking
> that
> > approach.
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 2:41 PM Jim Apple <jbapple@cloudera.com> wrote:
> >
> >> > Also the 6.1 release has already been tagged and it available for
> public
> >> download on github [4]  before this vote is finished. This is IMO
> against
> >> Apache release policy [3] please remove.
> >> > 3. http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#what
> >> > 4. https://github.com/apache/incubator-joshua/releases
> >>
> >> This interpretation by Github (that tags are public releases) is
> >> happening to Impala without our knowledge or consent. Does this make
> >> it against Apache release policy to tag release candidates?
> >>
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