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From Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Incubator chat on Hipchat?
Date Fri, 04 Nov 2016 07:48:07 GMT
I think for external chats we should rather recommend Gitter, which has
open rooms (anonymous lurking allowed) and "unlimited" searchable logs (and
unlimited number of users) and don't require workarounds with a sign up bot.

We did the same for Taverna, we tried an IRC chat, but its synchronous
nature and lack of modern web support meant it was not too useful as we
span timezones across the globe. We tried HipChat, but it somehow didn't
kick off.

Now that we tried Gitter (https://gitter.im/apache/taverna) we've seen a
large increase in brainstorming and developer activity (and have to keep
more of a watch to actively push decisions back to list. :-)). I think its
email notifications is a good way to lure people back (or scare away!).

The downside is that participation requires login with Twitter or GitHub,
which some communities might have reasonable objections to.

On 4 Nov 2016 2:33 am, "Wade Chandler" <wadechandler@apache.org> wrote:

> For the NetBeans community we had been using IRC, but then setup Slack, and
> it has seen an uptick over IRC which per logging and notifications had been
> harder to support and stay connected. We setup a sign up bot at
> https://netbeans.signup.team, and we also have a chat room hooked/bridged
> to our IRC channel, so we service both as a collective; good on mobiles
> too. We have as an item to talk to Slack about OSS and limits/restrictions.
>
> We don't intend it to replace mailing lists, Jira, nor the wiki, but look
> at it as dynamic chats and community building allowing to have hack, help,
> or real time hang time sessions. We didn't know about the Apache HipChat,
> but I must confess I much prefer Slack having used both during my day job.
>
> Wade
>
> On Nov 3, 2016 10:50 AM, "Marvin Humphrey" <marvin@rectangular.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 3:23 PM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Infra recently started leveraging hipchat.  A few PMCs have made use of
> > > it.  I was wondering, would it be beneficial to anyone if we setup an
> > > incubator room in hipchat?
> >
> > How about just promoting the #asf IRC channel on freenode.net?
> >
> >   https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/#asf
> >
> > Better for podling contributors to make connections to the wider ASF
> > rather than to limit themselves to the current incubator, and the #asf
> > channel is already well established.
> >
> > We could even embed the Kiwi IRC client in an iframe on the Incubator
> > website, at say http://incubator.apache.org/chat alongside guidance
> > documenting how we expect real-time communications to be used.
> >
> > <iframe src="https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/#asf"
> > style="border:0; width:100%; height:450px;"></iframe>
> >
> > Marvin Humphrey
> >
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