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From Evan Hughes <ehu...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Incubator chat on Hipchat?
Date Fri, 04 Nov 2016 11:51:46 GMT
Slack is more stable than hipchat, some of the infra staff have had
difficulties with new versions of the desktop client breaking.

On Fri, 4 Nov 2016 at 21:04 Wade Chandler <wadechandler@apache.org> wrote:

> Personally I tried gitter as GitHub was to come on-site at work, and
> planned to use it, and the experience was quite horrible. Look at its app
> reviews; I tend to agree with the low ones which get into its UX and
> usability. Even creating a room or finding existing groups didn't seem to
> work well (or at all) on mobile; at least Android. I may need to watch some
> tutorials on it, but at least with Slack things just work; I agree the
> limits etc can be annoying and working around them with bots or not relying
> on logs etc. HipChat is OK from my experience, but Slack is unrivaled, but
> certainly can be subjective.
>
> Wade
>
> On Nov 4, 2016 3:48 AM, "Stian Soiland-Reyes" <stain@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > I think for external chats we should rather recommend Gitter, which has
> > open rooms (anonymous lurking allowed) and "unlimited" searchable logs
> (and
> > unlimited number of users) and don't require workarounds with a sign up
> > bot.
> >
> > We did the same for Taverna, we tried an IRC chat, but its synchronous
> > nature and lack of modern web support meant it was not too useful as we
> > span timezones across the globe. We tried HipChat, but it somehow didn't
> > kick off.
> >
> > Now that we tried Gitter (https://gitter.im/apache/taverna) we've seen a
> > large increase in brainstorming and developer activity (and have to keep
> > more of a watch to actively push decisions back to list. :-)). I think
> its
> > email notifications is a good way to lure people back (or scare away!).
> >
> > The downside is that participation requires login with Twitter or GitHub,
> > which some communities might have reasonable objections to.
> >
> > On 4 Nov 2016 2:33 am, "Wade Chandler" <wadechandler@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > For the NetBeans community we had been using IRC, but then setup Slack,
> > and
> > > it has seen an uptick over IRC which per logging and notifications had
> > been
> > > harder to support and stay connected. We setup a sign up bot at
> > > https://netbeans.signup.team, and we also have a chat room
> > hooked/bridged
> > > to our IRC channel, so we service both as a collective; good on mobiles
> > > too. We have as an item to talk to Slack about OSS and
> > limits/restrictions.
> > >
> > > We don't intend it to replace mailing lists, Jira, nor the wiki, but
> look
> > > at it as dynamic chats and community building allowing to have hack,
> > help,
> > > or real time hang time sessions. We didn't know about the Apache
> HipChat,
> > > but I must confess I much prefer Slack having used both during my day
> > job.
> > >
> > > Wade
> > >
> > > On Nov 3, 2016 10:50 AM, "Marvin Humphrey" <marvin@rectangular.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 3:23 PM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Infra recently started leveraging hipchat.  A few PMCs have made
> use
> > of
> > > > > it.  I was wondering, would it be beneficial to anyone if we setup
> an
> > > > > incubator room in hipchat?
> > > >
> > > > How about just promoting the #asf IRC channel on freenode.net?
> > > >
> > > >   https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/#asf
> > > >
> > > > Better for podling contributors to make connections to the wider ASF
> > > > rather than to limit themselves to the current incubator, and the
> #asf
> > > > channel is already well established.
> > > >
> > > > We could even embed the Kiwi IRC client in an iframe on the Incubator
> > > > website, at say http://incubator.apache.org/chat alongside guidance
> > > > documenting how we expect real-time communications to be used.
> > > >
> > > > <iframe src="https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/#asf"
> > > > style="border:0; width:100%; height:450px;"></iframe>
> > > >
> > > > Marvin Humphrey
> > > >
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> > >
> >
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