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From Bertrand Delacretaz <>
Subject Re: [DRAFT] Incubator PMC Board Report - October 2016
Date Thu, 13 Oct 2016 07:57:41 GMT
Hi John,

On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 3:57 AM, John D. Ament <> wrote:
> ....Below is the incubator board report....

I object to the paragraphs quoted below about Mark Struberg and Tamaya
and suggest removing them, reworking to avoid mentioning names or
marking them <private>.

Our reports are meant to stay online forever, this excerpt is critical
of Mark in a way that's not needed and goes into lots of details about
that "alternative JSR" story, which are not relevant IMO about the
podling's progress overall.

Someone made a proposal, it was not accepted, that person left -
that's all typical business in our projects.

So maybe just summarize this as "a proposal was made for a different
configuration JSR, which the PPMC didn't agree with, resulting in some
people leaving the project" or something like that.

(there's no PPMS by the way ;-)

-Bertrand, with just my Incubator PMC hat on, nothing more

> ...Mark Struberg tried to established his ideas of a configuration JSR.
>   Though he was mentoring Tamaya his proposal did not match, what
>   we did in the project and could have a large impact on the project.
>   Even worse he did not collaborate with the project.
>   The main committers and PPMS members of the project did a hangout,
>   Where it has been decided that we will NOT change the API in favour of
>   the ideas of Mark. On one side we already had that kind of discussion 2
>   years ago and, on the other side an increasing number of people start to
>   use the project, so breaking API changes do not make sense.
>   Fortunately the Java community and Oracle did actively get in contact
>   with us regarding the planned new “Java EE Configuration JSR” and
>   see Tamaya as a very good base for building the configuration JSR with
>   similar concepts. Given that one of the original main purposes has been
>   achieved. As Mark failed with his ideas, he consequently quit his
>   assignment as a project mentor....

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