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From "John D. Ament" <>
Subject Re: Preliminary NetBeans cost findings
Date Tue, 27 Sep 2016 12:06:22 GMT
Sooo.... does anyone feel that this needs to wait longer before starting a


On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 7:06 AM Greg Stein <> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 12:35 PM, John D. Ament <>
>  wrote:
> > I see moving out of Oracle control as being a
> > graduation goal, not a start incubation goal.
> >
> Agreed, with both my IPMC and InfraAdmin "hats" on my head.
> I see these issues having time within incubation to be sorted out. I also
> see a high likelihood that the community will succeed in those efforts.
> Further, I think over time (several years of rollout), we can get NetBeans
> better integrated into the kinds of workflow and bits-hosting approaches
> that work well for us, and possibly reduce external dependencies.
> One of the "big" cost items is MacOS build boxes. We can/will look into
> those, and see about cost-sharing those with other PMCs who want them. But
> *if* push comes to shove, we just won't do it. That will hurt, yes. And
> then we can all start fighting :-) ... Seriously tho ... who is gonna block
> NetBeans coming to the ASF on the potential of not having MacOS build
> slaves?
> Thus, the three big-hit items (plugins, stats, macos) all seem to be
> reasonably solved, or at least workable.
> Cheers,
> -g

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