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From David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal
Date Wed, 14 Sep 2016 15:14:50 GMT
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
<bdelacretaz@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Geertjan Wielenga
> <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> ...there is no code on plugins.netbeans.org at all. No one can donate
>> any code from anywhere on plugins.netbeans.org to anyone else. It simply
>> contains binaries...
>
> Thanks for the clarification.
>
> This confirms my view, I don't think we should make hosting
> plugins.netbeans.org part of the incubation plan. That hosting might
> happen later, separately, but it's IMO not a condition for a
> successful move of NetBeans to Apache and much better discussed
> separately, once the project starts.
>
> -Bertrand
>

While it may not be a requirement to enter incubation, I do want us to
understand plugins.netbeans.org (and any other pieces of their
infrastructure) I admit it's been some years since I have used
Netbeans in anger, but plugins are (or were) pretty important to the
user community. I don't want us to defer the discussion for it to come
back some years down the road, especially for something that I
perceive is important for the user community.

I think this is similar to Maven Central - yes, we license maven
central to a third party and they administer the service. However, if
the time comes that either Sonatype or the PMC kill that off, Maven
Central can't just 'go away' - either a second third-party would have
to come in, or the ASF will have to bear the responsibility. So even
if someone else is licensed the ability to run plugins.netbeans.org -
we need to understand the responsibilities, as it may come home to
roost.[1]

--David

[1] http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/come+home+to+roost  - My
apologies for the idiom.

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