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From Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans Incubator Proposal
Date Sat, 17 Sep 2016 14:54:50 GMT
Hi all,

Can we be specific about what info is needed, or what further details
specifically, before going into a vote for acceptance of the proposal? My
concern is that each question we answer is answered by further questions to
answer. Maybe we could do a phone conference with the NetBeans
infrastructure side together with the Apache infrastructure side. Maybe we
can work through the infrastructure challenges during incubation.

It is clear that the current complexities of the NetBeans Mercurial
repositories is because of the specific style of working that the NetBeans
team has had, while will be moved to the standard Git way of working, which
will reduce the number of repositories significantly, while also
standardizing the process of working with NetBeans source code via the
adoption of the standard Apache way of doing so. The various different
servers and VMs that NetBeans has needed have also clearly been built up
over time and are not a mandatory requirement either, here too we'd like to
adopt the standard Apache approach as much as possible. The hosting of the
NetBeans plugins is not an immediate problem and we could solve it by
asking one or more of the individual committers to request their
organizations to host those plugins. Many of those plugins are old or not
maintained anymore and the total number that we would want to continue
making available could shrink significantly, also because NetBeans is
focused far more on 'out of the box' features than on plugins.

Our willingness to comply to standard structures and services provided by
Apache, while having a large community that could provide services we need
that Apache can't provide should give confidence that the incubation
process will be a success.

Thanks,

Geertjan



On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 3:23 PM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
wrote:

> Actually, I think a nightly build artifact would only be supported via
> Jenkins.  Travis can upload to things like nexus, but I don't believe we
> publish our credentials outside of the environment.
>
> This may also be a use case for jenkins pipelines, to orchestrate the build
> steps required programmatically via a groovy DSL instead of job configs.
>
> John
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 9:19 AM Bertrand Delacretaz <
> bdelacretaz@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Geertjan Wielenga
> > <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > ...The #1 requirement here is that there should be nightly
> > > builds and that is supported, from your response here...
> >
> > Yes, definitely, for that there's at least Jenkins at
> > https://builds.apache.org/ and Travis,
> > https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/apache_gains_additional_travis_ci
> >
> > -Bertrand
> >
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