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From Greg Stein <>
Subject Re: Preliminary NetBeans cost findings
Date Tue, 27 Sep 2016 11:06:33 GMT
On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 12:35 PM, John D. Ament <>

> I see moving out of Oracle control as being a
> graduation goal, not a start incubation goal.

Agreed, with both my IPMC and InfraAdmin "hats" on my head.

I see these issues having time within incubation to be sorted out. I also
see a high likelihood that the community will succeed in those efforts.
Further, I think over time (several years of rollout), we can get NetBeans
better integrated into the kinds of workflow and bits-hosting approaches
that work well for us, and possibly reduce external dependencies.

One of the "big" cost items is MacOS build boxes. We can/will look into
those, and see about cost-sharing those with other PMCs who want them. But
*if* push comes to shove, we just won't do it. That will hurt, yes. And
then we can all start fighting :-) ... Seriously tho ... who is gonna block
NetBeans coming to the ASF on the potential of not having MacOS build

Thus, the three big-hit items (plugins, stats, macos) all seem to be
reasonably solved, or at least workable.


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