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From Roman Shaposhnik <>
Subject Re: Netbeans expectations (Was: Re: ASF doing too much? (Was: Re: TAC))
Date Tue, 27 Sep 2016 22:39:26 GMT
On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Jim Jagielski <> wrote:
> I would have assumed that if Netbeans stakeholders had any issues
> or question, or requests for clarification, they would have
> pinged either their champion or one of their proposed mentors.
> As it is, it is only on this thread, and not on any Incubator/vote
> thread that I can see that this even came up, and even then
> it could easily have been overlooked.
> To be clear: "Netbeans stakeholders" had serious and misleading
> information about what Apache provided and it was only brought
> out via some backchannel discussion with someone not involved
> in the Netbeans proposal (from the Apache side) at all...

I am actually offended by your categorization of me as the one who
is "not involved in the Netbeans proposal (from the  Apache side) at all..."

Putting aside the amount of personal time I've spent on the phone,
online, etc. trying to help this community calibrate their expectations
about transition to ASF, I must say this: if you're telling a very active
member of IPMC (myself) that somehow I'm not involved in the
proposal just because my name isn't of the freaking list as a mentor
I can only say one thing back to you: way to go crushing any desire
I had to help. Way to go, Jim!


P.S. And for the record -- I was invited to be a mentor. I declined.

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