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From Dave Birdsall <>
Subject RE: Trafodion podling needs more mentors
Date Wed, 15 Jun 2016 21:00:51 GMT

When we first entered incubation, we had nine committers, all
Hewlett-Packard employees. A couple of months later, four of those decamped
to a new company, Esgyn Corporation, while the remainder either stayed with
HP or moved on to other opportunities. The four have remained very active
while the remaining five are mostly inactive.

Since then we have added six more committers, of whom five are affiliated
with Esgyn and one not.

There are many more contributors that are active as well.

Here's a list: It's not
complete; I can think of some contributors who are not listed. (We -- the
Trafodion podling -- should fix that.)

We recently had a discussion amongst ourselves concerning readiness for TLP.
Community diversity is something we think we need to improve. Advice and
help in this regard would be welcome.


-----Original Message-----
From: John D. Ament []
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: Trafodion podling needs more mentors


Thanks for the very detailed report.  One comment, which I think I made
earlier, is that we like to see how your community has grown.  So the
numbers don't provide the full details.

I'm curious, from your point of view, how close are you to graduating?  Is
your developer community diverse enough?


On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 4:27 PM Dave Birdsall <>

> Hi Martin,
> The intended audience for our project are users in the Apache Hadoop
> ecosystem looking for transactional and operational SQL. We provide a
> transactional and operational SQL engine on top of Apache HBase, with
> some support for non-transactional operation on Hive tables. By
> operational, we mean to include large reporting queries that one might
> do on a transactional database.
> Here's a pointer to our latest Podling Report (search for the string
> "Trafodion"):
> So far we have accomplished two releases: 1.3.0 and 2.0.0 (which was
> in discussion at the time the podling report was written).
> Very short-term objectives are we have a patch release 2.0.1 that
> needs approval. Short-term we are likely to have a Release 2.1 within
> the next few months.
> Long-term we hope to move to TLP. The biggest issue at the moment is
> expanding our community, as most of the developers and active
> committers are at one company.
> Our SDLC is a comprehensive branch model. We actively merge up any
> patches to older branches onto the latest branch. We use git for our
> source control. We use Jenkins to automate build and test of changes
> before they are committed. There is a culture within the podling of
> quick and thorough reviews of code changes. Small changes tend to be
> committed quickly while larger changes take longer. See
> We have produced a comprehensive set of documentation both of the
> project code itself and of the development process. The former can be
> found here (see the Documentation tab),
> and the latter in our wiki
> +Hom
> e (see Trafodion Contributor Guide).
> Thanks,
> Dave
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Gainty []
> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 1:06 PM
> To:
> Subject: RE: Trafodion podling needs more mentors
> what have you accomplished thus far?
> what are your short-term objectives..(what do you need by the end of
> 2016)?
> what are the long term objectives?
> what is your SDLC...submit jira ..submit patch and testcase and hope
> integration works OR comprehensive branch cut for major new release
> and then hopefully merge sometime later
> who is the intended audience for Trafodion?
> Thanks Dave!
> Martin
> ______________________________________________
> > From:
> > Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:58:31 -0700
> > Subject: Trafodion podling needs more mentors
> > To:
> >
> > Hello Incubator community,
> >
> > The incubating Trafodion project needs more mentors. The project is
> > in reasonably good shape from an infrastructure and work-habits
> > point of
> view.
> > We have done two releases now, learning many lessons from that
> experience.
> > But we need more help checking out our release candidates. Our
> > current mentors have been pressed for time. (We started with five,
> > two have
> since
> > resigned due to other obligations.) Anyone game?
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Dave Birdsall (member of Trafodion podling PMC)
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