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From Chris Mattmann <>
Subject Re: MADLib "contributors"
Date Fri, 03 Jun 2016 00:28:06 GMT
BTW, Roman, when discussing Spark’s move to Apache, and becoming
Apache Spark, this same question was asked. The things I’ve purported
in these situations is that it is fine to credit pre-Apache work as
simply the project name. Universities by their very nature don’t 
compete with companies, nor do they compete technologically with 501c3
charities and other foundations. I’m not saying they are prohibited
with competing. I’m saying, that there isn’t a competition. Companies can 
put 100-1000 people on a single feature. Universities don’t have the bandwidth
to do that at a University, and they are a different beast, than say,
company X, company Y and Z that have agreed to bring prior project A
now renamed Apache A. We should assume good faith in these situations
dealing with prior use. Clarifications are always welcomed, but we’re 
not going to go back and update 1000+ research papers and change all
references of Spark to Apache Spark it’s not feasible, nor is it desired
because it was Spark first, to start out with, and academic research use
is not competing with its use or name as an Apache project.

On 6/2/16, 5:22 PM, " on behalf of Roman Shaposhnik" <
on behalf of> wrote:

>Please stop putting a public mailing list on the same To: line as a
>private one. This is a pretty dangerous habit.
>I'll replace private@madlib with dev@madlib. Please reply to that part
>of the thread.
>On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Jim Jagielski <> wrote:
>> Looking at:
>> I am not sure I like the statement that:
>>     "including both individuals and institutions. Amongst our current contributors:"
>> and then a list of entities.
>> There are only individuals who contribute. Not institutions. In other
>> words, Pivotal is not a "contributor"... nor is ANY institution.
>> Please fix this. Thx!
>> PS: I am not on the private@madlib list
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