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From "John D. Ament" <johndam...@apache.org>
Subject Re: *.incubator.apache.org and lists.apache.org?
Date Tue, 28 Jun 2016 14:19:58 GMT
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 10:17 AM Daniel Gruno <humbedooh@apache.org> wrote:

> Let's keep the two things separate: There's Pony Mail, and then there's
> lists.apache.org which is a specific installation of it.
>
> In the specific agreement we have about lists.apache.org, we wanted the
> '.incubator' part of the mailing list IDs stripped, so we wouldn't have
> to fix that every single time on graduation - it would just work when
> projects became TLPs.
>
> I realize this poses an issue with the subscribe button, but it's
> something we (infra) are willing to live with for the time being, if it
> means less overall work for an understaffed infra team.
>
> We could, as I said on the JIRA ticket you raised, have
> $podling.apache.org be a valid MX record from the beginning, but I'm
> sure someone on this list will protest ;-)
>

You're incorrect.  This was discussed previously on this mailing list, and
the lazy consensus was that the IPMC is fine if both $podling.a.o and
$podling.incubator.a.o work, as long as the podling website includes proper
incubator branding.

So I'm not sure what needs to be done to enable the MX record, I can hold a
more formal vote on the subject if lazy consensus isn't enough.

John


>
> So, in a way, we're caught between what's practical and what's proper.
>
> With regards,
> Daniel.
>
> On 06/28/2016 04:02 PM, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm helping the new Juneau podling, and some confusion came because
> >
> > https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@juneau.apache.org
> >
> > claims the address is dev@juneau.apache.org
> >
> > and lists dev-subscribe@juneau.apache.org as it's "Subscribe" address.
> >
> >
> > Reply-To on the list is however dev@juneau.incubator.apache.org, as
> > you would expect.
> >
> >
> > Generally for podling both address styles work - and we just keep the
> > non-incubator address "secret". However in this case the DNS has not
> > been updated and sending to dev@juneao.apache.org fails.
> >
> > The new lists.apache.org interface makes it a bit confusing for
> > committers and specially newcomers.
> >
> >
> > Are we moving to using the style dev@$project.apache.org straight away
> > for new podlings, or is this simply a bug in Ponymail?   (We have
> > earlier discussed this as a possibility for website URLs)
> >
> > I've raised the bug
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-ponymail/issues/100 but wanted to
> > check here as well.
> >
>
>
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