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From Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Twill as Top Level Project
Date Fri, 03 Jun 2016 18:56:34 GMT
I see a small community with slow growth (Henry is the only committer appointed since incubation,
Terence does the majority of the commits, and if the mentors leave the project after graduation
the active PMC is dangerously close to 3 members) but it is a glass half full. The project
is being used, the community is growing, and the members of the project know the Apache way.
There is nothing to be gained from keeping this project in incubation.

+1  (binding)

… and good luck!

Julian

> On Jun 3, 2016, at 11:46 AM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Yep, its fine.  I'll change to a +1.
> 
> Don't forget to publish the website.
> 
> John
> 
> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 1:48 PM Henry Saputra <henry.saputra@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi John,
>> 
>> Ah, I apologize about missing your initial question. Seemed like it went to
>> spam folder.
>> 
>> Community activities happen in Twill, if you have followed our reports you
>> will see we just made 0.7 release and planning for 0.8 soon.
>> We also did presentation at Apache Big Data North America and had great
>> audience and interests on the project.
>> 
>> I have update the status page to reflect it. Mea culpa from me about
>> missing to push the updates.
>> 
>> Also, like I have mentioned in the DISCUSS thread, it is a small community
>> bc of the specialization of the scope (see Tez for example) and may not as
>> popular as Flink or Zeppelin, HOWEVER it does have some projects using it
>> and has some small contributions to help with bugs and design reviews.
>> 
>> BUT, as our mentors and others had chimed in, the podling has shown that it
>> is capable to operate with the spirit of the ASF.
>> We believe it is ready to continue journey as TLP.
>> 
>> Hope this helps relieve your concern.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> - Henry
>> On behalf of Twill PPMC
>> 
>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:06 PM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Henry,
>>> 
>>> Just wondering if you can give me an answer on
>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/Zmz8ynxuks2ynai ?
>>> 
>>> I'm -1 until then, due to lack of community growth in the past 10 months.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 6:06 PM Henry Saputra <henry.saputra@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> 
>>>> Following the DISCUSS thread about Apache Twill graduating as TLP, I
>>> would
>>>> like to send VOTE request thread.
>>>> 
>>>> All the +1 binding votes sent in the DISCUSS will be counted in the
>> final
>>>> tally unless the individual request otherwise.
>>>> 
>>>> Here is the link to the VOTE in dev@ list:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-twill-dev/201605.mbox/%3cCALuGr6ZB1DZVWZJNd+-ib0NXZwyWebSBE0evs0Yp8uthe+=OQA@mail.gmail.com%3e
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Here is link to the VOTE result summary in the dev@list :
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-twill-dev/201605.mbox/%3cCALuGr6aSYs=daVpeeYO0GPKdfu=DKHVyhw12jDj66-dpzSqGWA@mail.gmail.com%3e
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The VOTE will run until June 6, 2016 4pm PST
>>>> 
>>>> +1 [  ]
>>>> 0 [  ]
>>>> -1 [  ]
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> - Henry
>>>> On behalf of Apache Twill PPMC
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> PS:
>>>> 
>>>> Here is my vote:
>>>> 
>>>> +1 (binding)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ## Resolution to create a TLP from graduating Incubator podling
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>    X. Establish the Apache Twill Project
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>       WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>>>> 
>>>>       interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>>>> 
>>>>       Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>>>> 
>>>>       Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>>>> 
>>>>       open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
>>>> 
>>>>       the public, related to providing a set of libraries as
>>>> abstraction to develop
>>>> 
>>>>       distributed applications, with a programming model that is
>> similar
>>>> to
>>>> 
>>>>       running threads, inside compute cluster such as Apache Hadoop
>> YARN
>>>> 
>>>>       NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>>>> 
>>>>       Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Twill Project",
>>>> 
>>>>       be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>>>> 
>>>>       Foundation; and be it further
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>       RESOLVED, that the Apache Twill Project be and hereby is
>>>> 
>>>>       responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>>>> 
>>>>       related to providing a set of libraries as abstraction to
>> develop
>>>> 
>>>>       distributed applications, with a programming model that is
>> similar
>>>> to
>>>> 
>>>>       running threads, inside compute cluster such as Apache Hadoop
>> YARN
>>>> 
>>>>       and be it further
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>       RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Twill" be
>>>> 
>>>>       and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>>>> 
>>>>       serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
>>>> 
>>>>       of the Apache Twill Project, and to have primary responsibility
>>>> 
>>>>       for management of the projects within the scope of
>>>> 
>>>>       responsibility of the Apache Twill Project; and be it further
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>       RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>>>> 
>>>>       hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>>>> 
>>>>       Apache Twill Project:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>         * Terence Yim <chtyim@apache.org>
>>>> 
>>>>         * Andreas Neumann <anew@apache.org>
>>>> 
>>>>         * Gary Helmling <garyh@apache.org>
>>>> 
>>>>         * Albert Shau <ashau@apache.org>
>>>> 
>>>>         * Poorna Chandra <poorna@apache.org>
>>>> 
>>>>         * Henry Saputra <hsaputra@apache.org>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>       NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Terence Yim
>>>> 
>>>>       be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Twill, to
>>>> 
>>>>       serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
>>>> 
>>>>       Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
>>>> 
>>>>       death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
>>>> 
>>>>       or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>       RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Twill PMC be and hereby is
>>>> 
>>>>       tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
>>>> 
>>>>       encourage open development and increased participation in the
>>>> 
>>>>       Apache Twill Project; and be it further
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>       RESOLVED, that the Apache Twill Project be and hereby
>>>> 
>>>>       is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
>>>> 
>>>>       Incubator Twill podling; and be it further
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>       RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
>>>> 
>>>>       Incubator Twill podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
>>>> 
>>>>       Project are hereafter discharged.
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 


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