From general-return-52859-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Sun Nov 22 20:17:28 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9FBAD18005 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 20:17:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 47575 invoked by uid 500); 22 Nov 2015 20:17:28 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 47365 invoked by uid 500); 22 Nov 2015 20:17:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 47353 invoked by uid 99); 22 Nov 2015 20:17:27 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd2-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 20:17:27 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd2-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd2-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 6699A1A07EA for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 20:17:27 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd2-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd2-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=comcast.net Received: from mx1-us-east.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd2-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.9]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c8IOUTY4MIYv for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 20:17:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from resqmta-po-02v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-02v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.161]) by mx1-us-east.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-us-east.apache.org) with ESMTPS id C28AB43E19 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 20:17:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from resomta-po-16v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.240]) by resqmta-po-02v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id kkH81r00G5BUCh401kHGjZ; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 20:17:16 +0000 Received: from tpx ([24.130.135.131]) by resomta-po-16v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id kkHF1r0082qGB6001kHF2W; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 20:17:16 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tpx (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB332004A8AB for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 12:17:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 12:17:15 -0800 From: Konstantin Boudnik To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: RTC vs CTR (was: Concerning Sentry...) Message-ID: <20151122201715.GG4878@tpx> References: <20151118003713.GI4878@tpx> <20151118015706.GK4878@tpx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="j/tBPq5EzcXNongx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Organization: It's something of 'Cos X-PGP-Key: http://www.boudnik.org/~cos/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1448223436; bh=6NLFs2RoPk3RKJcyg7TgYcE6zmkbpgjCbUzMdfUsay0=; h=Received:Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=E/pX2JnTyTpCDdFOuB9rIhTn8rFTGT3VXIZhU6PacrmNDYgp+fm66PxZj+gMmvbov pbagYFCpgsKs8K4Sjo6QnEqq82K/Q8m6/GATeMbnl9kvyO/Rq2GBO95NNOMQPLfm1u McY3Zhok0IRoa/y+0QT/leo3ufiQJpG73r69t84ecO38fAfms3c6b+XLCjXayHusk8 7vaEZgmqXZN4ok8fu0+D73m7SLL6Aq5svyJrxAiJ0eAT8W0QaGz9yV7pWJ9rk8W3wp cw1+h/3RcMDntbulElE3NFk6EbB1bzjY8ewM3lytKaUqVLbfk9svD2vMpj8km0iX51 Clcu7VzSFHUcA== --j/tBPq5EzcXNongx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 06:06PM, Todd Lipcon wrote: > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 5:57 PM, Konstantin Boudnik wrot= e: >=20 > > > > On the contrary... The business of the Incubator and IPMC is to help > > podlings > > and their communities to grok and follow the Apache Way. Trust is a > > foundation > > principal of a healthy community. Hence, this whole discussion has quit= e a > > lot > > of business in the incubator. > > >=20 > Except that there seems to be great disagreement among the Members as to > whether RTC is somehow anti-Apache-Way. Woot? > If you want to try to create an ASF-wide resolution that RTC doesn't foll= ow > the Apache Way, and get the board/membership to vote on it, go ahead, but Thanks, I will thing about this idea. > it confuses podlings who are new to the ASF when people espouse personal > opinions as if they are ASF rules. >=20 > -Todd --j/tBPq5EzcXNongx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlZSIssACgkQenyFlstYjhJChwEAy59C+m2s9/vatqKcNMNouBoe jbNjMuuuL4bQojk4jW4A/RdQYb77oiCOnXZRjbiXemx6lKnFMlmUkW6YmMoCdx5m =JlsF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --j/tBPq5EzcXNongx--