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From Jim Jagielski <>
Subject Re: Adopting non-ASF AL projects (was Re: [DISCUSS] Kudu incubator proposal)
Date Fri, 27 Nov 2015 15:08:53 GMT
As with many other things, there is a difference between what we CAN
do and what we SHOULD do.

We CAN take whatever permissively licensed codebase we want, basically,
and create an Apache PMC around it. All we would be doing is what
we allow others to do w/ our projects. As long as we abide by the
conditions of the License, we are fine.

However, we have a long standing tradition of always asking
permission whenever we even include, bundle or fork a codebase
for our usage within a project. If we were to take over an
entire codebase in order to create a project and community around
it, we should really ensure that the original project and esp.
the community are A-OK with that, support that and will help
with that.

> On Nov 27, 2015, at 9:03 AM, Harbs <> wrote:
> I think the chances of anyone making so much as a squeak in those projects is close to
> Being that’s the case, my takeaway is that it’s ok to take them.
> Harbs
> On Nov 27, 2015, at 3:42 PM, Ted Dunning <> wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Alex Harui <> wrote:
>>> On 11/26/15, 4:47 PM, "Ted Dunning" <> wrote:
>>>> There are two issues, one is the SGA and the other is the contributor
>>>> license agreements (ICLA) that are desirable to make sure that all of the
>>>> contributors understood that they were contributing under ASL.
>>> OK, so I think you are saying that we can't take over change control of
>>> these projects without paperwork from every contributor?  That's what I
>>> was thinking as well, and why these donations may never get completed
>>> because several of the past contributors have moved on to other things and
>>> aren't following those projects anymore.
>> I don't think that this is hard and fast, but unless I was pretty sure that
>> nobody would rise from the dead and bitch and moan, I would be a bit
>> cautious.
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