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From "Mattmann, Chris A (3980)" <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Kudu incubator proposal
Date Mon, 23 Nov 2015 16:23:36 GMT

Please re-read my email. As I stated we don’t take code that
authors don’t want us to have. So far, we haven’t heard from any of
the authors on the incoming Kudu project that that’s the case. If
it’s not the case, we go by the license of the project which stipulates
how code can be copied, modified, reused, etc.


Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Chief Architect
Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398)
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527
Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Harui <>
Reply-To: "" <>
Date: Monday, November 23, 2015 at 8:14 AM
To: "" <>
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Kudu incubator proposal

>On 11/22/15, 12:51 PM, "Mattmann, Chris A (3980)"
><> wrote:
>>If they have code contributions part of
>>code base, that they don’t want included, they can state that. It was my
>>understanding this code base was Apache License, version 2, beforehand,
>>we have the ability to include and modify their code as part of an ALv2
>>licensed code base, that is being brought to the ASF.
>I thought there was a "rule" that Apache projects don't "take" code,
>regardless of license.  IOW, that every line code must be "donated" to the
>ASF via SGA or CLA.  That would imply that unless the contributors for
>every line of code in the incoming the code base have documented their
>donation, that the code base will need documentation (via LICENSE and
>maybe comments in the files and headers) as to what AL code remains
>third-party and which is officially part of the ASF project.  Sure, the
>fact that the code is under AL lets you include and modify, but I think
>that without such documentation that code is "bundled" and third-party.  I
>thought the default is that it isn't "included" and they need to state
>that it is ok for it to be "included".
>Otherwise, there's a pile of Google Code and GitHub projects I'm going to
>grab for my project.
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