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From Alex Harui <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Trafodion (incubating) 1.3.0-incubating (RC4)
Date Fri, 20 Nov 2015 20:24:05 GMT

On 11/20/15, 8:18 AM, "Roberta Marton" <> wrote:

>It looks like we have some copyright and licensing issue to resolved
>completing our first release. So I am officially withdrawing our request
>for our first Apache Trafodion release.  We will take a look at all the
>issues reported and submit a new package later.

Good luck.  FWIW, at my company, the legal staff was highly interested in
helping us get this right, had tools to help us get it right, and their
response time was often quicker than this list and would be true legal
advice instead of anecdotes from engineers who've survived the process.
If you have such resources available to you it might speed up the process.
 They may not be able to advise on how to write the LICENSE and NOTICE
files, but they could help you be more certain about which files need to
be mentioned in LICENSE and NOTICE.  The reason the company legal staff
was interested was because the Software Grant had to be signed by a VP and
needed to be as accurate as possible since the company didn't want to
grant IP to the ASF and expose to the world in the ASF repos that it
wasn't supposed to.

Once you know who owns the various pieces and which ones have been granted
vs are 3rd party, you can then make more sense of the ASF documents on how
to document everything.  The ASF has further rules on what 3rd party
dependencies are allowed in various configurations.  A company can grant
software that the ASF cannot use "as-is" because it depends on 3rd party
code with certain licenses.


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