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From Joe Schaefer <>
Subject Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation
Date Wed, 04 Nov 2015 01:17:21 GMT
The only thing I might recommend of the podling is to try to leave
low-hanging fruit in jira unpatched for a longer period of time to allow
outside contributors the ability to participate.  Coupled with identifying
these tickets on the mailing list, that might lead to more outside

I do share the concern that we have several elected committers that haven't
yet advanced to the ppmc level.
Perhaps there's not enough project-level mentoring (as opposed to IMPC
mentoring) going on to bring these newer people along.

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 7:59 PM, Joe Schaefer <> wrote:

> I still consider that hearsay evidence.  If you bother to actually look at
> their Jira you will see the vast majority of tickets opened in the past
> month remain open.  I've spent an hour or so myself investigating this in
> some detail and turned up nothing- I invite you and others to do the same.
> On Tuesday, November 3, 2015, Rich Bowen <> wrote:
>> On Nov 3, 2015 11:34 AM, "Joe Schaefer" <> wrote:
>> >
>> > David,
>> >
>> > The problem with Rich's commentary is that we don't have any solid
>> evidence
>> > to that effect.  Certainly not on a systematic level.
>> > All I see is a lot of responsiveness from the team about repair-oriented
>> > tickets, or some mundane task like updating dependencies.
>> > I don't find credible evidence to support the claim that development is
>> > happening prior to filing a ticket about it.
>> Sure. I'm not involved in the community, but have had the above scenario
>> described to me by two different people.

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