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From "John D. Ament" <johndam...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Date Tue, 03 Nov 2015 01:17:07 GMT
Actually, 5/5 releases were done without the SGA.  I'm not too worried
about that for a number of reasons.

1. We imported the full history from the original repository, the podling
has built upon that instead of flattening the commit.

2. The code coming in was already AL v2 compliant, so its really a question
as to whether releases were proper.

3.  From continuing to look into this, I also noticed we're missing an IP
Clearance for the donation.  In addition, there are 31 contributors per
github, but the project proposal includes 8, the current roster shows 13 +
5 mentors.  So there is a potential gap related to IP.

4. We've had prior cases where podlings failed to get the SGA done properly
before starting incubation.  It happens, and as long as we can find an SGA
indicating the initial import we should be fine.

Sorry, I feel like every time I dig into this I find something new. :/

John

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:51 PM David Nalley <david@gnsa.us> wrote:

> 5 releases of software, and 4 of them before an SGA appeared is troubling.
> The code being imported and writable at all at the ASF prior to a
> valid SGA being filed appears to be a violation of Incubator policy[1]
>
> This, plus John's comments are troubling and give me pause
>
> --David
>
> [1]
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#initial-import-code-dump
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:00 PM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > Sorry, I missed this email.
> >
> > No, votes don't automatically convert, at least not in my case.
> >
> > After my vote was added, there was a release vote of Kylin which raised
> new
> > licensing issues.  I wouldn't expect a graduating podling to still have
> > licensing issues.
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 8:38 PM Luke Han <luke.hq@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi John,
> >>      Thank you to remind and I'm sorry I was count votes only
> >> based on my understanding, per previous discussion and your
> >> comments in vote thread about SGA [1],  as a programmer,
> >> I was thinking:
> >>      if ( SGA == confirmed) {
> >>          John's Vote = +1
> >>      } else {
> >>          John's Vote = -1
> >>      }
> >>
> >>      that's why I count your vote to +1 since the SGA is confirmed
> >> and the status file has been updated (2015-10-17, for the copyright).
> >>
> >>      For the date you mentioned here (2015-06-10, for license), it's
> >> updated during the first apache release [2] [3], added Apache
> >> license header to all source files, cleaned up any GPL or other
> >> one and updated LICENSE, NOTICE and other files. The majority
> >> efforts happened during that time for license and copyright. That's
> >> why I would like to continue to keep that date.
> >>      For v1.1 release, the situation already has been clarified
> >> and LICENSE files has been updated [4].
> >>
> >>      Would you mind to continue count your vote as +1 as my original
> >> "brain computing logical":)
> >>
> >>
> >> *[1]:*
> >>
> >>
> >> *Thanks Luke.  If you can get a reference out to people and have
> >> thekylin.xml updated to reflect the date, I'd be happy to add a +1
> >> butotherwise its -1 for me for now.*
> >> *[2]: **https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-669
> >> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-669>*
> >> *[3]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-715
> >> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-715>*
> >> *[4]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-999
> >> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-999>*
> >>
> >>
> >> Best Regards!
> >> ---------------------
> >>
> >> Luke Han
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 7:53 AM, John D. Ament <john.d.ament@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Ted,
> >> >
> >> > After catching up on email, I see the SGA was now processed.
> >> >
> >> > I am concerned though after looking at their latest release vote that
> >> we're
> >> > still missing a few things related to "Verify distribution rights."
> It's
> >> > not enough for me to say that they're far off, but after seeing the
> >> issues
> >> > related to both SGA and license/header declarations I can't say that I
> >> can
> >> > give the podling a warm +1 on their graduation.  Note that per the
> >> > podling's status page they completed these steps on 2015-06-10.
> >> >
> >> > John
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 7:36 PM Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > John,
> >> > >
> >> > > Was this issue not rectified to your satisfaction?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 10:15 AM, John D. Ament <
> johndament@apache.org
> >> >
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Hi Luke,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Actually I voted -1 due to your open SGA issues.
> >> > > > On Oct 22, 2015 11:24 PM, "Luke Han" <lukehan@apache.org>
wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > The vote for Apache Kylin to become a top-level project
has
> passed
> >> > > > > with 27 +1 votes and no 0 or -1 votes.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Thank you everyone for taking the time to review and cast
your
> >> vote.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > We will now prepare a resolution for the next Board meeting.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > 10 binding:
> >> > > > > * Henry Saputra
> >> > > > > * Andrew Purtell
> >> > > > > * Bertrand Delacretaz
> >> > > > > * Julian Hyde
> >> > > > > * P. Taylor Goetz
> >> > > > > * Ted Dunning
> >> > > > > * Edward J. Yoon
> >> > > > > * Alexander Bezzubov
> >> > > > > * John D. Ament
> >> > > > > * Owen O'Malley
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > 17 non-binding:
> >> > > > > * Luke Han
> >> > > > > * Shaofeng Shi
> >> > > > > * Jason Zhong
> >> > > > > * Qianhao Zhou
> >> > > > > * Dong Li
> >> > > > > * Droopy Hu
> >> > > > > * Xiaoyong Bai (lostitle)
> >> > > > > * Qi Liu (Goroutine)
> >> > > > > * Yerui Sun
> >> > > > > * Xu Jiang
> >> > > > > * Debashis Saha
> >> > > > > * Yang Li
> >> > > > > * Chad Chun
> >> > > > > * Atri Sharma
> >> > > > > * Hao Chen
> >> > > > > * Eddy Cai
> >> > > > > * Naresh Agarwal
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Luke
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
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