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From Henry Saputra <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Kudu incubator proposal
Date Wed, 18 Nov 2015 06:51:28 GMT
Hi Todd,

One concern, other IPMCs could help correct me if I am wrong, for
project that already open source and accepting contributions from
individuals which not part of initial committers is that it needs to
get the consent or grant from those contributors when moving to ASF.
Unless, the individuals have already signed the one for Cloudera when
contributing to Kudu.

Want to make sure the software grant concern be addressed early.


- Henry

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Todd Lipcon <> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 6:36 PM, Luke Han <> wrote:
>> In "community" section of this proposal, there are many companies
>> have been mentioned including Xiaomi, Dropbox, Intel and Dremio,
>> and said there are contributions from them.
>> I think their engineers are more interesting and be involved
>> in Kudu actively, why not think about to invite them to be committer first?
> Per earlier messages on the thread and per the proposal: because they
> haven't yet shown significant contributions over a sustained period.
> Interest is one thing, but interest is not sufficient to become a committer
> in a meritocracy. The folks called out in the community section are those
> who have interest and are somewhere on the path towards committership, but
> aren't there yet. I have every hope (and expectation) that they will get
> there if they keep up their good work.
> I would rather not discuss specific people's progress towards committership
> in a public forum. Rather, I hoped that we could start with the proposed
> committer list, and during incubation we can discuss potential new
> committers and PMC members following the typical ASF processes on our
> PPMC's private list. I'm counting on our experienced mentors to keep us all
> honest -- they should absolutely call us out if the initial committers act
> exclusionary or otherwise violate the ASF principles of being an inclusive
> meritocracy.
> -Todd

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