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From Greg Reddin <>
Subject Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation
Date Fri, 06 Nov 2015 14:21:33 GMT
On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Rich Bowen <> wrote:
> On 11/05/2015 12:02 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
>> Committership is the right to do work on the project. PMC membership is the
>> right to participate in governance.  People left in the nebulous state
>> between
>> committership and PMC membership for long periods of time more than likely
>> will give up in frustration for not being trusted enough to govern their
>> own work.
> Most of the older projects at the Foundation do not have PMC ==
> Committer. Notably, httpd. The notion that committers are automatically
> PMC is a fairly new innovation. As it happens, it's an innovation that I
> wholeheartedly support and recommend, but it's a minority of projects
> that have this policy. If you follow board reports, you'll notice that
> PMC additions and Committer additions are seldom coincident.

In further support of Joe's point, for most of the projects I've been
involved with, the PMC promotion was almost automatic and occurred
within about 6 months of committership. The committer-only period was
just a probationary period to make sure a person was not going to
abuse his/her privileges. An invite to committership comes with an
unspoken assumption that we want you to help govern the project, but
let's start with giving you access. I don't know that I ever saw
anyone stay as committer-only for an extended period of time.


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