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From Todd Lipcon <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Kudu incubator proposal
Date Wed, 18 Nov 2015 02:47:37 GMT
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 6:36 PM, Luke Han <> wrote:

> In "community" section of this proposal, there are many companies
> have been mentioned including Xiaomi, Dropbox, Intel and Dremio,
> and said there are contributions from them.
> I think their engineers are more interesting and be involved
> in Kudu actively, why not think about to invite them to be committer first?

Per earlier messages on the thread and per the proposal: because they
haven't yet shown significant contributions over a sustained period.
Interest is one thing, but interest is not sufficient to become a committer
in a meritocracy. The folks called out in the community section are those
who have interest and are somewhere on the path towards committership, but
aren't there yet. I have every hope (and expectation) that they will get
there if they keep up their good work.

I would rather not discuss specific people's progress towards committership
in a public forum. Rather, I hoped that we could start with the proposed
committer list, and during incubation we can discuss potential new
committers and PMC members following the typical ASF processes on our
PPMC's private list. I'm counting on our experienced mentors to keep us all
honest -- they should absolutely call us out if the initial committers act
exclusionary or otherwise violate the ASF principles of being an inclusive


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