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From Marvin Humphrey <>
Subject Re: Apache Metrics, Not Apache Humans
Date Tue, 17 Nov 2015 21:39:57 GMT
On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 10:49 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
<> wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Marko Rodriguez <> wrote:
>> ...The Apache Way should be about metrics..
>>...Get the human out of the loop!
> No.
> The ASF is built on the collective wisdom of its members and
> community. Having metrics-based projects might be an interesting
> experiment, but that's not the ASF.

My read of the proposal is that reduces uncertainty for a project
attempting to achieve "good health" and discredits any critiques which
might be raised by individual humans. Gaming the system can be seen as
justifiable if you don't consider the critiques valid and chafe under
an authority whose legitimacy you question.

Marvin Humphrey

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