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From Luke Han <luke...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Date Thu, 15 Oct 2015 23:41:13 GMT
Apache Kylin's name search has been approved, will raise vote now.

Thanks.


Best Regards!
---------------------

Luke Han

On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 9:38 PM, Luke Han <luke.hq@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you very much for your great feedback.
>
> For the bylaws, personally I would like to have one to ensure the
> community will
> grow health and active. There's one draft will coming to PPMC first for
> discussion which
> I'm working on.
>
> As my research, there are some projects have this section, like Hive,
> Hadoop, Storm
> but few are not.
> And as checked the content, most of them are actually very similar, like
> for the definition
> of roles, vote process and decision making.
>
> So I'm wondering should ASF, IPMC offer standard template for each podling
> to have
> by default? There's must different between projects but it will be easy
> for such work
> when graduating.
>
> At least, I don't found anything about "bylaws" under the Incubator
> Graduate Guide [1]
> Should we update this guide with such content, or add recommendation?
>
> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Best Regards!
> ---------------------
>
> Luke Han
>
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 2:27 AM, Andrew Purtell <apurtell@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Agreed, it would be good to have this clarification. The vote is likely to
>> proceed more smoothly.
>>
>> I'm in favor of graduation. I've been lurking over the past few months and
>> the podling has been functioning well.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Pierre Smits <pierre.smits@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Maybe the podling should then elaborate on their choice of having it in
>> the
>> > request proposal, before it comes to a vote and it is still in.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> >
>> > Pierre Smits
>> >
>> > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
>> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>> >
>> > On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 11:47 PM, P. Taylor Goetz <ptgoetz@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Exactly my point. If it's intentional, leave it in, otherwise consider
>> > > taking it out.
>> > >
>> > > As a (very recent) mentor, I see no indication that the Kylin
>> community
>> > > has plans to deviate.
>> > >
>> > > Background: When Storm was incubating I thought that creating bylaws
>> was
>> > > required, and we did so, for better or worse. In retrospect, I
>> probably
>> > > would have stuck with the defaults.
>> > >
>> > > -Taylor
>> > >
>> > > > On Oct 9, 2015, at 5:22 PM, Pierre Smits <pierre.smits@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Maybe the podling has a valid reason behind that choice. So let us
>> not
>> > > > chuck that out of the window because of other podlings not paying
>> > > attention
>> > > > to what they did.
>> > > >
>> > > > Best regards,
>> > > >
>> > > > Pierre Smits
>> > > >
>> > > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
>> > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>> > > >
>> > > >> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:42 PM, P. Taylor Goetz <
>> ptgoetz@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I agree.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> It’s also worth discussing whether the “tasked with the creation
>> of a
>> > > set
>> > > >> of bylaws” section of the proposal is really needed.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> My understanding is that that section is not actually necessary,
>> and
>> > has
>> > > >> proliferated among projects largely due to copying/pasting of
other
>> > > >> graduation proposals. I believe it is only necessary if a project
>> > plans
>> > > to
>> > > >> deviate from the ASF standard ASF practices.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Just something to consider.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> -Taylor
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> On Oct 9, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Julian Hyde <jhyde@apache.org>
wrote:
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> I am a mentor of Kylin and I believe the project is ready
to
>> > graduate.
>> > > >>> They have created a vibrant, open community and are conducting
>> > > >>> business in the Apache Way.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> One proviso: Let's complete the name search before starting
the
>> IPMC
>> > > >>> vote. It would be foolish to let that particular cart get
in
>> front of
>> > > >>> the horse. I don't think that prevents us from discussing
>> graduation.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Julian
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Samant, Medha <msamant@ebay.com
>> >
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >>>> +1
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>> On 10/9/15, 10:13 AM, "Adunuthula, Seshu" <sadunuthula@ebay.com
>> >
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> +1
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> On 10/7/15, 8:32 AM, "John D. Ament" <johndament@apache.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> I would be happy to see kylin graduate.
>> > > >>>>>>> On Oct 7, 2015 11:28, "Luke Han" <luke.hq@gmail.com>
wrote:
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> The Kylin community and project made significant
advances
>> during
>> > > the
>> > > >>>>>>> incubating (from Nov 2014) and
>> > > >>>>>>> believes it is ready to graduate as a top-level
project.
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> The Apache Kylin is very active. The PPMC
doubled in size
>> (added
>> > 6
>> > > >>>>>>> committers and 2 mentors) and
>> > > >>>>>>> increased diversity in the past year. Released
3 version in
>> the
>> > > past
>> > > >> 6
>> > > >>>>>>> months. There were presentations about Kylin
>> > > >>>>>>> at most of the big conferences of the world
(including
>> > > Strata+Hadoop
>> > > >>>>>>> World
>> > > >>>>>>> London, Hadoop Summit San Jose,
>> > > >>>>>>> ApacheCon EU, Big Data Technology China, Database
Technology
>> > > >> Conference
>> > > >>>>>>> China) and some meetups (Bay Area,
>> > > >>>>>>> Beijing and one is coming in this weekend
in Shanghai), and
>> many
>> > > >> talks
>> > > >>>>>>> around the world.
>> > > >>>>>>> The dev mailing list is growing very month,
about 500+ topics
>> per
>> > > >> month
>> > > >>>>>>> now.
>> > > >>>>>>> The community created 1000+ JIRA tickets,
many patches from
>> > > >>>>>>> contributors/committers have been merged into
code base.
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> A vote passed unanimously on the dev@ list
(27 +1 votes).
>> Please
>> > > >> find
>> > > >>>>>>> below
>> > > >>>>>>> references to the graduation preparation artifacts:
>> > > >>>>>>> * discussion on dev list [1]
>> > > >>>>>>> * vote thread [2]
>> > > >>>>>>> * podling name search (still in progress)
[3]
>> > > >>>>>>> * incubation status [4]
>> > > >>>>>>> * proposed resolution below
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> We believe Apache Kylin is ready to become
a top-level project
>> > and
>> > > if
>> > > >>>>>>> the
>> > > >>>>>>> IPMC agree we will move to a formal vote.
>> > > >>>>>>> There are a few more items to be updated on
the project status
>> > page
>> > > >> and
>> > > >>>>>>> others during the next couple of days.
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> Many thanks to the mentors and the IPMC for
the support,
>> > > >>>>>>> Luke Han (on behalf of the Apache Kylin PPMC)
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> [1] http://s.apache.org/KylinDisGraduate
>> > > >>>>>>> [2] http://s.apache.org/KylinGraduateVote
>> > > >>>>>>> [3]
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-86
>> > > >>>>>>> [4] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/kylin.html
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> Apache Kylin top-level project resolution:
>> > > >>>>>>> ===============================
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>      WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems
it to be in the
>> best
>> > > >>>>>>>      interests of the Foundation and consistent
with the
>> > > >>>>>>>      Foundation's purpose to establish a Project
Management
>> > > >>>>>>>      Committee charged with the creation and
maintenance of
>> > > >>>>>>>      open-source software, for distribution
at no charge to
>> the
>> > > >>>>>>>      public, relative to distributed and scalable
OLAP engine
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>      NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that
a Project Management
>> > > >>>>>>>      Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache
Kylin
>> Project",
>> > > >>>>>>>      be and hereby is established pursuant
to Bylaws of the
>> > > >>>>>>>      Foundation; and be it further
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>      RESOLVED, that the Apache Kylin Project
be and hereby is
>> > > >>>>>>>      responsible for the creation and maintenance
of
>> open-source
>> > > >>>>>>>      software related to distributed and scalable
OLAP engine;
>> > > >>>>>>>      and be it further
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>      RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President,
Kylin" be
>> and
>> > > >>>>>>>      hereby is created, the person holding
such office to
>> serve
>> > at
>> > > >>>>>>>      the direction of the Board of Directors
as the chair of
>> the
>> > > >>>>>>>      Apache Kylin Project, and to have primary
responsibility
>> for
>> > > >>>>>>>      management of the projects within the
scope of
>> > responsibility
>> > > >>>>>>>      of the Apache Kylin Project; and be it
further
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>      RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately
below be
>> and
>> > > >>>>>>>      hereby are appointed to serve as the
initial members of
>> the
>> > > >>>>>>>      Apache Kylin Project:
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>       * Dayue Gao <gaodayue at apache dot
org>
>> > > >>>>>>>       * Jason Zhong <zhongjian at apache
dot org>
>> > > >>>>>>>       * Julian Hyde <jhyde at apache dot
org>
>> > > >>>>>>>       * Luke Han <lukehan at apache dot
org>
>> > > >>>>>>>       * Henry Saputra <hsaputra at apache
dot org>
>> > > >>>>>>>       * Hongbin Ma <mahongbin at apache
dot org>
>> > > >>>>>>>       * Hua Huang <hhuang at apache dot
org>
>> > > >>>>>>>       * Owen O'Malley <omalley at apache
dot org>
>> > > >>>>>>>       * P. Taylor Goetz <ptgoetz at apache
dot org>
>> > > >>>>>>>       * Qianhao Zhou <qhzhou at apache
dot org>
>> > > >>>>>>>       * Shaofeng Shi <shaofengshi at apache
dot org>
>> > > >>>>>>>       * Song Yi <yisong at apache dot org>
>> > > >>>>>>>       * Ted Dunning <tdunning at apache
dot org>
>> > > >>>>>>>       * Xu Jiang <jiangxu at apache dot
org>
>> > > >>>>>>>       * Yang Li <liyang at apache dot org>
>> > > >>>>>>>       * Yerui Sun < sunyerui at apache
dot org>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>      NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED,
that Luke Han
>> > > >>>>>>>      be appointed to the office of Vice President,
Kylin, to
>> > serve
>> > > >>>>>>>      in accordance with and subject to the
direction of the
>> Board
>> > > of
>> > > >>>>>>>      Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation
until death,
>> > > >>>>>>>      resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
or
>> > until
>> > > >>>>>>>      a successor is appointed; and be it further
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>      RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Kylin
Project be and
>> > hereby
>> > > >>>>>>>      is tasked with the creation of a set
of bylaws intended
>> to
>> > > >>>>>>>      encourage open development and increased
participation in
>> > the
>> > > >>>>>>>      Kylin Project; and be it further
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>      RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Kylin
Project be and
>> > hereby
>> > > >>>>>>>      is tasked with the migration and rationalization
of the
>> > Apache
>> > > >>>>>>>      Incubator Kylin podling; and be it further
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>      RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining
to the
>> Apache
>> > > >>>>>>>      Incubator Kylin podling encumbered upon
the Apache
>> Incubator
>> > > >>>>>>>      PMC are hereafter discharged.
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>
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>> --
>> Best regards,
>>
>>    - Andy
>>
>> Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
>> (via Tom White)
>>
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