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From Shane Curcuru <>
Subject Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF?
Date Fri, 14 Aug 2015 22:59:41 GMT
On 8/7/15 7:53 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> Bill,
> So I can release "Niclas Hadoop platform, based on Apache Hadoop" ?? I
> thought the discussion a few years ago was that this was misleading...

No, you cannot.  See our actual trademark policy:

Our release policy, as Roman originally asked about, applies only to ASF
projects, and has no bearing on third parties.  However our trademark
policy, and trademark law, prevents third parties from publicly
providing software using our trademarks.

Our operational policies only apply to our projects, just like any other
corporation.  Some policies, like our license itself and our formal
trademark policy, inform the rest of the world how they are allowed to
use our websites, software code, and brands.

Make sense?

- Shane

> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 12:30 PM, William A Rowe Jr <>
> wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>> while answering a question on release policies and ALv2
>>> I've suddenly realized that I really don't know what is the
>>> legal basis for enforcing release policies we've got
>>> documented over here:
>>> For example, what would be the legal basis for stopping
>>> a 3d party from releasing a snapshot of ASF's project
>>> source tree and claim it to be a release X.Y.Z of said
>>> project?
>> Nothing other than the Trademarks.
>> If someone wants to call httpd trunk 3.0.1-GA, they cannot do this as
>> "Apache httpd 3.0.1-GA" or "Apache HTTP Server 3.0.1-GA".
>> They can certainly release trunk under the AL license and call it "Kindred
>> Http Server 3.0.1-GA, based on Apache HTTP Server". That is a statement of
>> fact and not an abuse of the mark, IMHO. (If it was not actually based on
>> Apache HTTP Server, then that would similarly be a Trademark infringement
>> as it is a false use of the mark.)
>> There are no less than two marks, one is the name of the foundation itself
>> in conjunction with Open Source Software, and the other is the specific
>> project name.

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