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From "Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamil...@acm.org>
Subject RE: Podlings and the ASF maturity model (was: Reform of Incubator...)
Date Thu, 06 Aug 2015 17:47:53 GMT
+1 

with the understanding that there is the usual flexibility between policies and practices,
consistent with the spirit and principles of the ASF for Apache Projects.  

And, to be fair, I think TLPs should also self-assess on a periodic basis as an accountability
of the PMC, nudged as necessary by the Chair (not to do it as much as to direct the PMCs eyes
to the ball).

I can also imagine the maturity model items being used on an exception basis, only reporting
maturity-model deviations and how they are being addressed as part of a report to the Board.

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Bertrand Delacretaz [mailto:bdelacretaz@apache.org] 
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2015 00:28
To: Incubator General <general@incubator.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Podlings and the ASF maturity model (was: Reform of Incubator...)

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Niclas Hedhman <niclas@hedhman.org> wrote:
> ...the maturity model shouldn't be a set of gating criteria, but that the
> podling should self-assess its position and to what degree, as well as how,
> each point is handled. Yes, many of the points are non-negotiable, but
> don't claim that all are...

So you would see the maturity model as one element of the Incubation
graduating checklist, with self-assessment from the podling and its
mentors? I like the idea.

-Bertrand

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