From general-return-50222-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Wed Jul 15 19:41:44 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8F845187D0 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 19:41:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 98550 invoked by uid 500); 15 Jul 2015 19:41:44 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 98332 invoked by uid 500); 15 Jul 2015 19:41:44 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 98321 invoked by uid 99); 15 Jul 2015 19:41:43 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd4-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 19:41:43 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd4-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd4-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 4A34BC047E for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 19:41:43 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd4-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.981 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.981 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY=1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=disabled Received: from mx1-us-west.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd4-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.11]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bfsvwIhH5Y48 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 19:41:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vn0-f42.google.com (mail-vn0-f42.google.com [209.85.216.42]) by mx1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 4110A2110B for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 19:41:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vnbg190 with SMTP id g190so5705304vnb.2 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 12:40:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=HPA8cXAe8z09x/i6yMJ/1tLMcOVKoyKfpmkO5bWDocI=; b=FpHwbp3X+ml/kc0M4bG6AYCXz2IbdjNe1Eyr9jY+jrVC57xcCc3ewF1EBcenENEIdX QBcilZ0A483O3CSDmdGUR5uEzTwBHV5zmD9AmcJ0HGs8cPr6mAk3bOvNziFZp3WLjQqg JDNPPkqV7At/+0Rir+GMkZt0t9XY8BqXfmf8tFEfzWYt1jdrxlux1mLH6DfWS/pzk0ro AFg7WF0PVw/VwhDvYffHnkGoGyTITy0+s7u1Xu3SsgjbYiMWsCIbPwEh5MVrHuDBvsMC rqHJj0RviZeJ0NYBG+kaadk/tNQrHTU005VjRD9Qg5I1hwagnCDCxFP/2K38VTDBmghE cEqQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnK9fwUHh5jpB3vcaguUZg9JyfF6C+YwRHCHHocUTLAr6428m1Rih4wdlcu2HHsxLDiNWGB X-Received: by 10.52.2.170 with SMTP id 10mr6010589vdv.93.1436989245406; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 12:40:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.131.14 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 12:40:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Ian Maxon Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 12:40:25 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Podling request: Gerrit To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > The legal issue at hand is that one must reasonably assume that the > contributor offers his patch with an implicit license to the ASF for > distribution under the terms of the ASL 2. > > For example, if you add a patch to a Jira issue, then there is a > select box, which allows to express consent to that license grant. By > selecting "yes", the user even provides an explicit license grant, and > we are supposed to ignore the patch, if that isn't provided. I see. Does that explicit consent happen with pull requests somehow too? In any case though I think we could devise a way to notify a user to become aware of this whenever they would register an account on the server. - Ian On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 5:53 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Ian Maxon wrote: > >> I guess there's some legal issue I'm ignorant of here then. How would >> one submit a patch, without cloning from the official mirror, and >> hence becoming just as aware of ASF involvement as they would >> otherwise? > > The legal issue at hand is that one must reasonably assume that the > contributor offers his patch with an implicit license to the ASF for > distribution under the terms of the ASL 2. > > For example, if you add a patch to a Jira issue, then there is a > select box, which allows to express consent to that license grant. By > selecting "yes", the user even provides an explicit license grant, and > we are supposed to ignore the patch, if that isn't provided. > > >>> Well, for starters: There's a certain degree of integration between >>> Github and the ASF infrastructure. For example, I am reading about >>> pull requests on ASF mailing lists. Likewise, I follow the discussion >>> on the same mailing lists. >>> >>> Or, in other words: By reading those mailing lists, I am fully informed. >> >> If that's an issue it's an easy one to resolve (as stated before). >> Both Gerrit and Jenkins can output that type of mail without trouble. > > It is not upon me to declare that as acceptable, or sufficient. What > do others think? > > > Jochen > > > > -- > Any world that can produce the Taj Mahal, William Shakespeare, > and Stripe toothpaste can't be all bad. (C.R. MacNamara, One Two Three) > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org