From general-return-50469-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Thu Jul 23 22:18:17 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C52F18C68 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 22:18:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 28713 invoked by uid 500); 23 Jul 2015 22:18:17 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 28503 invoked by uid 500); 23 Jul 2015 22:18:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 28489 invoked by uid 99); 23 Jul 2015 22:18:16 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd2-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 22:18:16 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd2-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd2-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 4C0311A778F for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 22:18:16 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd2-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.011 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.011 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_BL=0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_L3=0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd2-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=comcast.net Received: from mx1-us-west.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd2-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.9]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FzgSdi8uL370 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 22:18:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from resqmta-ch2-10v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-10v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.42]) by mx1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 865E324972 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 22:18:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from resomta-ch2-01v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.97]) by resqmta-ch2-10v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id vyGg1q00826dK1R01yHAbJ; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 22:17:10 +0000 Received: from tinybb.boudnik.org ([24.130.135.131]) by resomta-ch2-01v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id vyH91q00U2qGB6001yHAZ2; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 22:17:10 +0000 Received: by tinybb.boudnik.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id E329829E; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 22:23:53 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 15:23:53 -0700 From: Konstantin Boudnik To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator Message-ID: <20150723222353.GK30506@boudnik.org> Mail-Followup-To: general@incubator.apache.org References: <20150722231648.GU28615@boudnik.org> <55B07771.9050001@gmx.org> <20150723062040.GG4306@tpx> <20150723185459.GE30506@boudnik.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Organization: It's something of 'Cos User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1437689830; bh=iWCQFReSyTNOt/tbk0reMRT4uFCmW/9I3fsKqzh6pn4=; h=Received:Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lWsWh/f3rQEJG9y4Az+EoAPo0GUoFJdmn2Isch+OVyhDEWqrp+VeVH4aWfRU0kQhc hAefngxevyQdlvq5gObUyC8tRuoSWKGV/pwW68brjp5e9fVnZfoz7sqoG/F0jowqOM sPFu77BKPWQ+GDK5F8jBG5mAhlt3WcQycB8/Xg3VFVHaBP2NZnBuvOf2s3GV2HjAig 50SF1KXcSICd3w+mOKEzkXDOz6ToIcTm/GHHmKrB0Dpf5ehsPR6ejIzUgBXOF4cRdy zGv7eJVNXY6FQOuJgmR/NyAhKEvaIVILIexNS0u44vPkXGDp0CUfBm1qmM4uHNOsQb CgdaNum1FjIag== Taylor, I agree with you - there's no rush in the graduating of course - the community and the mentors were in the consensus that the project is ready for it. However some of the points that lead to the perpetuation of the thread were obvious non sequitur, like the "63%" one. The others were very valid. I believe valid points were addressed as the discussion was happening. I personally think that all real concerns are addressed and the community is trending handsomely and healthy. Some of IPMC members might have different impression - there's little we can do except of waiting for the later time when _every single IPMC member_ is on board; running the vote will be contradictory to the consensus building principle. But before we go down that path I want to ask folks who have expressed factual concerns to chime in once more and confirm which of those weren't addressed yet, if possible. With regards, Cos On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 05:48PM, P. Taylor Goetz wrote: > It seems to me that some valid concerns have been raised regarding Ignite’s > readiness to graduate. > > Is there a rush for Ignite to graduate? If there is, and the reason for that > rush is anything other than “the excitement and pride of becoming a TLP”, > then it might be indicative of an additional problem. > > Would spending one or more additional monthly cycles in the incubator to > address those concerns be a problem? > > I know when podlings graduate it reduces the load on the IPMC, but isn’t our > goal to make sure podlings leave the nest ready to succeed and thrive within > the bounds of the Apache Way? > > -Taylor --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org