From general-return-50354-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Tue Jul 21 18:47:59 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AA52518A7B for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 18:47:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 14370 invoked by uid 500); 21 Jul 2015 18:47:52 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 14135 invoked by uid 500); 21 Jul 2015 18:47:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 14121 invoked by uid 99); 21 Jul 2015 18:47:52 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd4-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 18:47:52 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd4-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd4-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 59DDFC0044 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 18:47:52 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd4-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.314 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.314 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, URI_HEX=1.313] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd4-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=comcast.net Received: from mx1-us-east.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd4-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.11]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZLNPgmCYIFvd for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 18:47:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from resqmta-ch2-05v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-05v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.37]) by mx1-us-east.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-us-east.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 587944C0DB for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 18:47:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from resomta-ch2-03v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.99]) by resqmta-ch2-05v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id v6lB1q00429Cfhx016mbXt; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 18:46:35 +0000 Received: from tinybb.boudnik.org ([24.130.135.131]) by resomta-ch2-03v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id v6ma1q00X2qGB60016mbMC; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 18:46:35 +0000 Received: by tinybb.boudnik.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id D1C9C29E; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 18:53:11 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 11:53:11 -0700 From: Konstantin Boudnik To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator Message-ID: <20150721185311.GC28615@boudnik.org> Mail-Followup-To: general@incubator.apache.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Organization: It's something of 'Cos User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1437504395; bh=HGynopPgnpR1aUafJmho+jEf+oVBZ85EZcy1Bo0fpxs=; h=Received:Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=m50Z1ixh3e/Gd2kP1oCZp/yZ4C5zO6J8O1OdjXJMywRxMVscxGdFDflwCCSxC3RIE CKDyZWDi9gFH2l2kYFFqeJCPYzOWBf/G81b65ajZGSkSc5gWzttIf1NZ94KzmvRqui KhiQOQEecXzviRXOa0ghDn+WCoD+rZlYCJWuA7vqEPfriBpYNzgWRtdgrKCwX4070t RrFWzI1kGNYUSlRcE7E71pxfNMUQmypQmus/naCZkmgMmi8rTiKGSJ/gu0MfoqrWl9 8C9/S5pZTZZSto3Ing0fElF2iWpo731QdG2+gZT3vQtPBwkp0lUi8cNOTVyc7dR7Ls hRQFwBkBiaA6A== The so-called diversity requirement has been discussed on this list for a number of times. Most recent is the graduation of Flume project (back in 2012). Here's a quote from that thread (kudos to Roy; for those who want to look it up in the archives MessageId is 73DB2E64-87D5-4DD5-91FB-403464895AC5@gbiv.com): [quote] There is no diversity requirement at the ASF. There is a behavior requirement for graduation and a behavior requirement for TLPs. We must not confuse the two. If the Incubator says that there is a diversity requirement for graduation, ignore it (or at least figure out what the docs were supposed to say and then do that). I'd urge folks to fix the docs, but I know where that leads ... and I have no cycles to spare. A diversity requirement would mean that a person's employment status impacts their ability to participate here. IOW, it would create a perverse incentive for them not to be employed. [/quote] Regards, Cos On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 05:55PM, Pierre Smits wrote: > It seems that 63% of the podling's PMC is affiliated to 1 organisation > (Gridgrain). > > Have sufficient grounds been covered to ensure diversity and independece? > > Best regards, > > Pierre Smits > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Dmitriy Setrakyan > wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 4:08 AM, amareshwarisr . > > wrote: > > > > > Seems the DESCRIPTION_AND_SCOPE of the project is set to " the automated > > > and managed flow of information between systems." > > > > > > I dont see any such on project website - > > > http://ignite.incubator.apache.org/ > > > Looks like a copy from NIFI's graduation discussion - > > > > > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201506.mbox/%3CCALJK9a4PD%2B3qGGQbbHHyLfY8Ut9BP9VyEDwtnZDSWjpMKiwk9w%40mail.gmail.com%3E > > > . > > > You might want to correct it. > > > > > > > Yup, copy-n-paste never works :) Corrected below. > > > > > > > > > > Correct me if description is fine and I'm wrong in understanding the > > > description > > > > > > Thanks > > > Amareshwari > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 5:06 AM, Dmitriy Setrakyan < > > dsetrakyan@apache.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hello Apache Incubator, > > > > > > > > At the suggestion of our mentors the Ignite community established > > > consensus > > > > and held a successful vote with 14 +1 votes in favor of proposing > > > > graduation to TLP. > > > > > > > > Vote thread: > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/VOTE-Graduate-Apache-Ignite-from-Incubation-td1539.html > > > > > > > > Summary of the vote results: > > > > +1 (non-binding) = 14 > > > > > > > > 1. Yakov Zhdanov (PMC) > > > > 2. Gianfranco Murador (PMC) > > > > 3. Ira Vasilinets (PMC) > > > > 4. Nikolai Tichinov (PMC) > > > > 5. Semyon Boikov (PMC) > > > > 6. Sergi Vladykin (PMC) > > > > 7. Alexey Goncharuk (PMC) > > > > 8. Ognen Duzlevski (PMC) > > > > 9. Valentin Kulichenko (PMC) > > > > 10. Nikita Ivanov (PMC) > > > > 11. Dmitriy Setrakyan (PMC) > > > > 12. Andrey Novikov (Committer) > > > > 13. Alexey Kuznetsov (Committer) > > > > 14. Milap Wadwa > > > > > > > > We’d like to initiate this discussion/proposal to establish a consensus > > > > within the incubator and if appropriate will initiate a vote. > > > > > > > > Below is our proposed resolution: > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > Dmitriy Setrakyan(on behalf of the Apache Ignite PPMC) > > > > > > > > SUBJECT: Establish the Apache Ignite TLP > > > > > > > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best > > > > interests of the Foundation and consistent with the > > > > Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management > > > > Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of > > > > open-source software, for distribution at no charge to > > > > the public, related to the automated and managed flow of > > > > information between systems. > > > > > > > Should be: > > > > --------- > > "related to delivering an In-Memory Data Fabric - a high-performance, > > integrated and distributed in-memory platform for computing and transacting > > on large-scale data sets in real-time" > > -------- > > > > > > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management > > > > Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Ignite Project", > > > > be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the > > > > Foundation; and be it further > > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Ignite Project be and hereby is > > > > responsible for the creation and maintenance of software > > > > related to the automated and managed flow of information > > > > between systems and be it further > > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Ignite" be > > > > and hereby is created, the person holding such office to > > > > serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair > > > > of the Apache Ignite Project, and to have primary responsibility > > > > for management of the projects within the scope of > > > > responsibility of the Apache Ignite Project; and be it further > > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and > > > > hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the > > > > Apache Ignite Project: > > > > > > > > Semyon Boikov (sboikov@apache.org) > > > > Konstantin Boudnik (cos@apache.org) > > > > Branko Čibej (brane@apache.org) > > > > Ognen Duzlevski (maketo@apache.org) > > > > Sergey Evdokimov (sevdokimov@apache.org) > > > > Alexey Goncharuk (agoncharuk@apache.org) > > > > Nikita Ivanov (nivanov30@apache.org) > > > > Sergey Khisamov (skh@apache.org) > > > > Valentin Kulichenko (vkulichenko@apache.org) > > > > Alexey Kuznetsov (akuznetsov@apache.org) > > > > Gianfranco Murador (murador@apache.org) > > > > Andrey Novikov (anovikov@apache.org) > > > > Vladimir Ozerov (vozerov@apache.org) > > > > Dmitriy Setrakyan (dsetrakyan@apache.org) > > > > Roman Shaposhnik (rvs@apache.org) > > > > Ilya Sterin (isterin@apache.org) > > > > Nikolai Tikhonov (ntikhonov@apache.org) > > > > Irina Vasilinets (ivasilinets@apache.org) > > > > Anton Vinogradov (av@apache.org) > > > > Sergey Vladykin (svladykin@apache.org) > > > > Evans Ye (evansye@apache.org) > > > > Yakov Zhdanov (yzhdanov@apache.org) > > > > > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that > > > > Dmitriy Setrakyan be appointed to the office of Vice President, > > > > Apache Ignite, to serve in accordance with and subject to the > > > > direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the > > > > Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or > > > > disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; > > > > and be it further > > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Ignite PMC be and hereby is > > > > tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to > > > > encourage open development and increased participation in the > > > > Apache Ignite Project; and be it further > > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Ignite Project be and hereby > > > > is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache > > > > Incubator Ignite podling; and be it further > > > > > > > > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache > > > > Incubator Ignite podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator > > > > Project are hereafter discharged. > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org