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From David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us>
Subject Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator
Date Tue, 21 Jul 2015 23:21:31 GMT
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 7:10 PM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Daniel Gruno <humbedooh@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> The question of diversity in this case is not "are we enough
>> men/women/whatever", the question here is "is there a single corporate
>> entity with a deciding vote in the project?".
>>
>
> Actually, I would hope that the criterion is whether there is a single
> corporate entity, the distraction of which would effectively kill the
> project.
>
> And we do need to look at Ambari as a precedent.  Even now the PMC has 30
> members from one company and 7 from other companies.  No other company has
> more than two PMC members and all of the top 24 contributors are from the
> majority company.  I would be very surprised if this project could survive
> a withdrawal of support from that one company.
>
> Yet we graduated Ambari without a peep.  Not surprisingly, most of the
> votes were cast by employees of that one company.  But nobody complained at
> all.
>
> So it behooves us as some critique Ignite for lack of diversity to ask
> whether precedent matters at all here.
>
> Does it?

Speaking generally:
I don't think so.
No one noticed or complained is hardly reason to ignore problems, (if
it is indeed a problem) or to say that such decisions are now binding.
It might be a different matter if it was explicitly acknowledged.

--David

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