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From Ted Dunning <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator
Date Tue, 21 Jul 2015 23:10:30 GMT
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Daniel Gruno <> wrote:

> The question of diversity in this case is not "are we enough
> men/women/whatever", the question here is "is there a single corporate
> entity with a deciding vote in the project?".

Actually, I would hope that the criterion is whether there is a single
corporate entity, the distraction of which would effectively kill the

And we do need to look at Ambari as a precedent.  Even now the PMC has 30
members from one company and 7 from other companies.  No other company has
more than two PMC members and all of the top 24 contributors are from the
majority company.  I would be very surprised if this project could survive
a withdrawal of support from that one company.

Yet we graduated Ambari without a peep.  Not surprisingly, most of the
votes were cast by employees of that one company.  But nobody complained at

So it behooves us as some critique Ignite for lack of diversity to ask
whether precedent matters at all here.

Does it?

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