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From Marvin Humphrey <>
Subject Re: Shepherds
Date Sat, 11 Jul 2015 23:52:17 GMT
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Pierre Smits <> wrote:
> Hi all,
> Roman wrote this regarding shepherds to me in an off-site discussion:
> Shepherd have tremendous responsibilities by providing an independent
> second opinion of the health of podlings back to the IPMC

The first opinion on the podling's health comes from the podling
contributors who create the podling report.  Providing a second
opinion on the health of the podling is a responsibility of the
Mentors, and we should trust them.  It's when Mentors drop away that
we have a problem.

The Shepherds used to address this contingency, but shepherd
participation has been low for a long time and we can't count on the
Shepherds to catch when podlings are adrift.  (Unless we want to start
rejecting reports with no shepherd review, which I'm sure nobody

> Please have that incorporated in the Roles and Responsibilities page (

The shepherd institution is slowly tailing away as fewer and fewer
shepherds participate.  I don't see this as a bad thing, as the
crucial functionality of the shepherds -- making sure podlings in
trouble don't slip through the cracks -- is now achieved by requiring
Mentor signoff and by putting podlings who don't report into "monthly"
reporting. It's the Report Manager and the Chair who take care of

Rather than shunt volunteer energy towards shepherds, it would be nice
if we had more Report Managers.

Marvin Humphrey

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