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From Konstantin Boudnik <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator
Date Tue, 21 Jul 2015 21:17:09 GMT
Yet, the graduation of the projects like Apache Tez had happened with close to
100% PPMC employed by the same company. Shall IPMC first workout what
diversity means in numbers and then apply it to all podlings, instead of doing
this arbitrary?

And what that number should be? Would it need to be 47%? Why not 26% perhaps?
May be Pierre can share his thoughts on why 63% seems to be low. Perhaps he
would care to produce some statistical evidences that anything above 62%
doesn't work?

A project isn't controlled by a company but by its PMC. If PMC doesn't do its
job then the board@ has ways of interfere, and so far was doing just that very


On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 10:44PM, jan i wrote:
> On 21 July 2015 at 22:39, Ted Dunning <> wrote:
> > Present time diversity or lack of same is not a bar to graduation.
> >
> Reading other lists, it seems to me that board is very concerned about TLPs
> that are dominated by one company.
> We (ASF) want to ensure that a project is not controlled by a company, and
> also that the project can survive if
> the company decides to do something else. That is diversity to me, and I
> hope to many others.
> It might not be a bar for leaving the incubator, but I sure hope it is a
> bar for getting a board approval.
> (and actually I thought it was a concern for incubator too).
> rgds
> jan i.

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